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Post subject: Help me with a Serial Nr
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:46 pm
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Hey I want help too date a guitar. Its a Fender American Classic Nashville Telecaster and its a CS I think. My friend wants to sell it but i´m afraid of what it is???
What i can see by the serial it says its build in Korea??? But it has a CS logo both on the back of the headstock and the backplate.
The Serial Number is:
CN 400 284.
Please help me find out the story of my guitar.

//Chris from Sweden


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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:32 pm
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Well if it was made in korea then it cant be american and with the CS logo it is probably fake ...... if you can post some pictures that would be helpful :)


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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:38 pm
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yer guitar was made in korea but it wont give a year

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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:00 am
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Contact customer services. CN serials have appeared on customshop guitars as well as korean.

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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:02 am
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I have a CN serial number also, I called Fender and they sent me a letter confirming that I indeed have a Custom Shop guitar. I am the original owner and also have the Certificate of Authenticity. I called because of the confusion about the "made in Korea" letters CN. As this information was not from Fender I don't put a lot of stock in it.


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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:18 am
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Hi wahlstromschris
I believe that the guitar is a Custom Shop made Classic Tele...
According to my records-RW fretboard 3 Tone Sunburst Gold Hdwr completed 8/12/96 and sold to the MARS store chain.
If it further matches the specs below.......probably the real thing.
Hope that helps! Best, rob

Model Name: American Classic Tele® (Gold Hardware)
Model Number: 010-4810-(Color#) and 010-4812-(Color#)
Series: Custom Shop "Custom Classics" Series
Body: Alder (Ash with 801 Color)
Neck: Lightly Figured Hard Rock Maple
Fingerboard: Rosewood pn# (010-4810) or
Maple (010-4812), (9.5” Radius/241 mm)
No. of Frets: 22
Scale Length: 25.5” (648 mm)
Width @ Nut: 1.650” (42 mm)
Hardware: Gold
Machine Heads: Gold American Standard
Bridge: American Standard Gold
Pickguard: White Pearloid
Pickups: 2 Texas SpecialTM Strat® Pickups (Neck & Mid),
1 Texas Special Tele (Bridge)
Pickup Switching: 5 Position Switch (Standard Strat Style Switching)
Controls: Volume, TBX Tone, Reverse Control Plate
Colors: STANDARD COLORS:
(800) 3-Color Sunburst with brown shell pickguard, Rosewood fretboard only,
(801) White Blonde with brown shell pickguard,
(803) 2-Color Sunburst with white shell pickguard, Maple neck only,
(816) Champagne Sparkle with white shell pickguard,
(841) Vintage White with brown shell pickguard,
(865) Black Haloflake with white shell pickguard,
(895) Starlite Blue with white shell pickguard,
Custom Color Options also available
(Catalyzed Urethane finish)
Strings: Fender Super 250L’s (.009 to .042) Nickel Plated Steel pn#073-0250-003
Unique Features:
Source: U.S. Fender Custom Shop
Accessories: Black Tolex Case, Strap, Cable
U.S. MSRP: 010-4810 Rosewood fretboard, standard color, gold hardware $1,899.99
010-4810 Rosewood fretboard, custom color, gold hardware $2,049.99
010-4812 Maple neck and fretboard, standard color, gold hardware $1,899.99
010-4812 Maple neck and fretboard, custom color, gold hardware $2,049.99
Specs: Prices and Specifications Subject to Change Without Notice
INTRODUCED: 1996
DISCONTINUED: 1/1998


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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:55 pm
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Well, Chris from Sweden, we want to know...


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Yup you got it direct from the man that the serial no's ok. Is the hardware the same.

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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:36 pm
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I have a custom shop strat which starts with CN (I am the original owner). Apparently C=Custom and N=Nineties.

You pay all that money and you get a serial number that, according to the fender website, makes your guitar a Korean-made Fender/Squier. http://www.fender.com/support/usa_instruments.php


GUITARS WITH SERIAL NUMBERS BEGINNING WITH 'CN' CAN BE CUSTOM SHOP INSTRUMENTS

FENDER NEED TO UPDATE THEIR WEBSITE TO AVOID CONFUSION!



Further info/websites on the subject:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=EeEctAKFUWAC&pg=PA70&lpg=PA70&dq=fender+serial+CN+n+%3D+nineties&source=bl&ots=QUwDEdLXwA&sig=UQu_6db7J2q0CNSS9f_91eB6-vQ&hl=en&ei=ezGxSbeLMuTGjAeg1-nRBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result

http://www.fenderforum.com/forum.html?db=&topic_number=690134

http://www.fenderforum.com/forum.html?db=&topic_number=695713&lastpost=2008-12-1014:23:42

This link includes a 1998 Custom Shop 1969 Reissue Stratocaster with Serial #: CN703318
http://www.strat-central.com/c2.htm


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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:49 am
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Hi CT79,
I see your point, but at the same time, correct me if i'm wrong, but I am only seeing production guitars...no Custom Shop Serial numbers mentioned. I'm not sure why the CN Korean-made Squiers are mentioned in the US Made section......but it IS in the "Odd" part of it anyway.
Although there are some basic themes to Custom Serial numbers, there are alos examples where they are all over the place...especially when people request particular ones as part of their Masterbuilt orders.

Sooo...what can I say? sorry for the confusion. On the other hand, i find these guides to be useful as just that....a guide. Honestly, the world of Fender serial numbers can be a wild and wacky ride...so no absolutes should be counted on.

Hope that helps....a bit.

Best regards,
rob


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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:10 am
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It would be nice to have something from fender on their website to clarify that serial numbers starting with CN can also be custom shop instruments. A Custom Shop Serial number webpage would be good.

Anyone wishing to check a fender serial number beginning with CN will search the internet and eventually stumble across this page http://www.fender.com/support/usa_instruments.php. Like you say it is just a guide but as it's on the fender website people accept it at face value. It wouldn't be difficult for fender to add some extra information. A lot of people see this and become confused and paranoid if they are about to purchase one.



Rob Schwarz-Fender wrote:
Hi CT79,
I see your point, but at the same time, correct me if i'm wrong, but I am only seeing production guitars...no Custom Shop Serial numbers mentioned. I'm not sure why the CN Korean-made Squiers are mentioned in the US Made section......but it IS in the "Odd" part of it anyway.
Although there are some basic themes to Custom Serial numbers, there are alos examples where they are all over the place...especially when people request particular ones as part of their Masterbuilt orders.

Sooo...what can I say? sorry for the confusion. On the other hand, i find these guides to be useful as just that....a guide. Honestly, the world of Fender serial numbers can be a wild and wacky ride...so no absolutes should be counted on.

Hope that helps....a bit.

Best regards,
rob
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Rob Schwarz-Fender wrote:
Hi CT79,
I see your point, but at the same time, correct me if i'm wrong, but I am only seeing production guitars...no Custom Shop Serial numbers mentioned. I'm not sure why the CN Korean-made Squiers are mentioned in the US Made section......but it IS in the "Odd" part of it anyway.
Although there are some basic themes to Custom Serial numbers, there are alos examples where they are all over the place...especially when people request particular ones as part of their Masterbuilt orders.

Sooo...what can I say? sorry for the confusion. On the other hand, i find these guides to be useful as just that....a guide. Honestly, the world of Fender serial numbers can be a wild and wacky ride...so no absolutes should be counted on.

Hope that helps....a bit.

Best regards,
rob



Rob as always is the man, thanks for all you do Rob!

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