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Post subject: FAKE FENDER??
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:38 am
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CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME IF THESE ARE FAKE OR ORIGINAL AMERICAN JAZZ BASS
SERIAL # IS N7217796


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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:22 am
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Looks like a '97 USA Jazz to me, according to the serial, headstock decal, etc. Any reason you think it might be bogus?

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Post subject: Re: FAKE FENDER??
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:33 am
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Fake ? Do you mean Fake Fender as in not a "Real" Fender ? Or do you mean "Fake" as in not really a bass guitar but a mere figment of ones imagination..? if thats the case then WOW!how did the seller pull that off ?
No really its a "actual" Fender by the pics,Why do you question it ? I dont see anything that even remotely raises a red flag,Whats the concern? :?:

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Post subject: Re: FAKE FENDER??
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:46 am
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Neck plates can be misleading,they seem to switch them up whenever it seems like the right time...or it also can be aftermarket,there MANY of these in all different styles(the big F,the "made in Corona...,some with the serial# etc...)I would def NOT go by this peice to try to date the bass with way to many variables.
G/Luck :mrgreen:

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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:23 am
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The only non-original part that is apparent ,via these pictures, is the pickguard.

The bass appears to be a genuine 1997 Fender Jazz Bass. Have fun playing it!


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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:07 pm
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Definitely a mid to late '97 or real early '98 -

There's one just like it (except for a white pickguard) at my local Guitar Center.

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Post subject: Re: FAKE FENDER??
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:32 pm
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Yep, there fake. They Pronounce it Fen--dear on those.
Not really,they look fine to me to.


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Post subject: Re: FAKE FENDER??
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:12 pm
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Hi!
Well heres what the serial number tracks to-- our model number 019-2400-706-
AM STD J-BASS RW BLK W/C----completed 3/12/1997- shipped to Germany 5/23/1997
Here's the Specs: (so....different pickguard anyway)
Model Name: American Standard Jazz Bass®
Model Number: 019-2400-(Color #) and 019-2402-(Color #)
Series: American Standard Series
Body: Alder (Optional Swamp Ash Body on Natural Finish Only pn# 019-2400/2-721)
Neck: Graphite Reinforced Maple
Fingerboard: Rosewood pn# (019-2400) or Maple pn# (019-2402), (9.5” Radius/241 mm)
No. of Frets: 20 Medium Jumbo Frets
Scale Length: 34” (864 mm)
Width @ Nut: 1.500” (38 mm)
Hardware: Chrome
Machine Heads: American Standard
Bridge: American Standard (Strings-Thru-Body)
Pickguard: 3-Ply White
Pickups: 2 American Standard J Bass (Neck & Bridge)
Pickup Switching: N/A
Controls: Volume 1. (Neck Pickup),
Volume 2. (Bridge Pickup),
Master Tone
Colors: (700)* 3-Color Sunburst, add $50.00,
(701)** White Blonde, add $150.00 for Special Wood Requirements
(705) Olympic White,
(706) Black,
(721)** Natural Ash, add $150.00 for Special Wood Requirements,
(724) Inca Silver,
(774) Aqua Marine Metallic,
(793) Purple Metallic
(Polyurethane Finish)
Strings: OEM 8250M #073-8250-006 NPS .045, .065, .085, .110TW (Taperwound E)
Unique Features:
Source: U.S.
Accessories: Molded Case
U.S. MSRP: $1,199.99 (With Swamp Ash Body $1,349.99)
NOTICE: Prices and Specifications Subject to Change Without Notice
INTRODUCED: 1/1995
DISCONTINUED: 6/2000
DISCONTINUED COLORS: (732)* Brown Sunburst add $50.00 (1/98)
28 (Crimson Burst (1/97),..add $50.00), (741) Vintage White (4/97), (772) Sonic Blue (4/97)
(702) Lake Placid Blue, (7/98)
(709) Candy Apple Red, (7/98)
COMMENTS: Replaced by the new "American Jazz Bass" 6/2000
WRENCH SIZES: Truss Rod 3/16" pn# 0048693000, Saddle Height 1/16" pn# 0021109000

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Post subject: Re: FAKE FENDER??
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:44 pm
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LOL Sabre! Thanks for the nice words.

Yeh, both serial number information and the specs are on internal databases and not for public consumption. But if you go to Fender.com and pick a model, you can pull the same sorts of specs there. Its just that our Manager in Consumer Relations has spent an inordinate amount of time over the course of some years, entering specs for as many models, with as many FMIC brands, as we could get a hold of. So along with newer specs, we also have a good amount of archival info to pull from.
On the serial info for individual instruments, we have a couple of different places to pull from, but it includes a good amount of proprietary info as well (order numbers-invoice numbers, etc). Honestly, the serial info isnt as complete as it could be, mainly because humans are involved :O). For instance one person might enter an amp serial number as
B-45653 and the next person B45653....and of course his colleague 45653.
At any rate.....you get the drift.
Cheers and back to work!!
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Post subject: Re: FAKE FENDER??
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:47 am
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Hi there! I'm about to buy a American Special (?) Jazz Bass 2006 (looking at the front of headstock it seems to be one. There are a lot of things changed. There's no "American Special" on the headstock. The serial is there, as is the made in USA. And this is, I presume the neckpocket stickers/stamp on neck butt are the the most obvious things to look at. of The seller says he is not the first owner and isn't sure what model it is, he suggests vintage series, roadworn, etc. Maybe someone can give me their opinion? Thanks a lot! http://s40.photobucket.com/user/freddie ... 7.jpg.html Sorry for the less then perfect pictures...!


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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:20 am
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The black shell pickguard is an aftermarket mod; it appears the original owner was not happy with the stock 3-ply white and decided to replace it.

This bass in its present form looks much cooler.

Definitely a 1997 Jazz.

The change to the Corona neck plate occurred in 1998.


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Post subject: Re: FAKE FENDER??
Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:37 am
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Hit and RUN poster- doesn't come back and say thanks or kiss my butt or anything. Nice. :cry:


BTW that bass isn't real . It looks just like the ones Fly Whitlock makes on weekends. He works at Durrells Chili and Waffels on Walabash if you need to get ahold of him.


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