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Post subject: American Standard Question
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:48 pm
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With the new American standards having the custom shop pickups,for the vintage Fender sound what pots are they using? When I was doing up my last precision I read somewhere that apart from the cloth wiring,that 250k pots were needed & a 0.47 orange cap :? . Is this true & if so are these present on the new American standards.

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Post subject: Re: American Standard Question
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:37 am
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luckman67 wrote:
With the new American standards having the custom shop pickups,for the vintage Fender sound what pots are they using? When I was doing up my last precision I read somewhere that apart from the cloth wiring,that 250k pots were needed & a 0.47 orange cap :? . Is this true & if so are these present on the new American standards.


250k CTS pots yes. However Fender does not use Sprague Poly Orange Drops in passive bass tone circuits and as far as I know never has.
You'll probably find a tiny orange cap in there in a new Am Standard, but it isn't a Sprague Poly or Mylar Orange-Drop, it is instead a reproduction ceramic disc.

Several years ago Fender commissioned ceramic disc reproductions in several values and one is labeled 0.05uf which shows up almost always in Fender USA and MIM passive basses. These are intended to emulate the ceramic discs used in vintage instruments through the heart of the Pre-CBS and CBS eras. The reproductions are tiny (about the diameter of a baby green pea) in relation to a genuine vintage ceramic disc cap which would be closer to the diameter of a dime. I suspect these reproduction ceramic discs are the tone caps still being used now as they have been the ones used in recent years on most USA and MIM passive basses. But I've not opened a 2014/2015 bass to look yet.

Meanwhile Fender Japan has continued using the green poly chicklets. Prior to the reproduction ceramic discs for a number of years Fender USA and MIM basses had the same green poly chicklets used in Fender Japan instruments.

Know what? Unless you have a full range high fidelity amp pushing a modern cab array with a crossover and horn/tweeter...or you are patching direct to a mixer....then you probably are not going hear any difference between any cap types or brands anyway. The typical bassist playing weekends with a 1x15 combo amp should just leave it alone because what tone cap is in their instrument really won't matter at all. Only in a full range cab situation with a really clean preamp and clean power amp...OR when patching direct into a console....will you hear any difference between cap types at all! This is largely because you need a clean amp and most combos are not clean and because you need a good full range speaker array and most combos are far from full range emphasizing boom boom and little else.

Some people say you can't hear any difference at all between any cap types in any situation! Many of these people saying this are electronics engineers who maintain that the cap type does not matter, only the value. But more than a few players think the cap type does matter on a bass into a clean bass preamp pushing a clean power amp into full range speaker array. However on a guitar plugged into a guitar amp which has greater inherent distortion built into it than a bass amp in the first place the type of tone cap in the guitar won't matter as much.


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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:04 am
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Thank you for clearing that up for me Dave :) , I posted this just before I got my American Standard on Wednesday (01/14/15).

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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:28 am
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I would just leave it totally stock. Just change strings as needed and tweak the setup to your liking. Today's American Standards are far and away better than anything I ever played from the CBS era 70's & 80's. The standard Custom Shop p'ups are killer :!:

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Post subject: Re: American Standard Question
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:56 am
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linnin wrote:
I would just leave it totally stock. Just change strings as needed and tweak the setup to your liking. Today's American Standards are far and away better than anything I ever played from the CBS era 70's & 80's. The standard Custom Shop p'ups are killer :!:

I was just asking the question that's all. On my bass apart from Fender straplocks (which I'm getting soon) is staying stock. I can honestly say there is nothing on the new American Standard Precision I would change, Mine is exactly how I wanted it . Really beginning to bond with this bass 8) .

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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:04 am
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linnin wrote:
I would just leave it totally stock. Just change strings as needed and tweak the setup to your liking. Today's American Standards are far and away better than anything I ever played from the CBS era 70's & 80's. The standard Custom Shop p'ups are killer :!:

I was just asking the question that's all. On my bass apart from Fender straplocks (which I'm getting soon) is staying stock. I can honestly say there is nothing on the new American Standard Precision I would change, Mine is exactly how I wanted it . Really beginning to bond with this bass 8) .


I'd have to agree with linnin. The Am. Std. is a solid series of Fender basses. You can play them hard, and they Keep On Truckin'.

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Post subject: Re: American Standard Question
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:02 am
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I'm hoping I own this for a very long time :D .

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