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Post subject: 1972 Fender P Bass
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:57 am
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Say hello to my new friend...

I really wanted a relic'd P-bass, but this beauty... the tone is just incredible... the feel?

Just thought I would share...

It's not an original pickguard, and I'm thinking of putting a tortoise pickguard on it... any thoughts?

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Post subject: Re: 1972 Fender P Bass
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:12 am
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Whoa boy that's awesome, congrats!


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Post subject: Re: 1972 Fender P Bass
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:19 pm
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I think that Bass would look great with a tort pickguard.

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Post subject: Re: 1972 Fender P Bass
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:41 pm
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Original PG is white. My 72 Jazz is the same set up- Natural/Maple neck- That P bass looks good. My Jazz is a relic. I'll trade you.


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Post subject: Re: 1972 Fender P Bass
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:59 pm
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stroker vance wrote:
Original PG is white. My 72 Jazz is the same set up- Natural/Maple neck- That P bass looks good. My Jazz is a relic. I'll trade you.


Thanks for the offer... but I've been hunting for the right P bass for years... :wink:

I've seen pictures of the white pick guard. I'm not as much of a fan as the black... but I want a little bit of character to say... "mine" - even though it's not vintage.

I read somewhere that the vintage scratch plates were made of parchment and were flammable?


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Post subject: Re: 1972 Fender P Bass
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:17 am
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acoustic356 wrote:
I'm thinking of putting a tortoise pickguard on it


Putting a tortoise guard on this thumper will turn it into a Glen Matlock P.

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Post subject: Re: 1972 Fender P Bass
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:57 am
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acoustic356 wrote:

....I read somewhere that the vintage scratch plates were made of parchment and were flammable?


There is a guard color called parchment. It is sort of a beige color that frequently has a satin-like look on top instead of a glossy sheen. Parchment colored guards are no more flammable than any other modern pickguard.

Other than metal hardware, strings and electronic components the bulk of the instrument is in fact flammable since it is made of wood! I have never heard of a pickguard spontaneously bursting into flames or a celluloid guitar pick either. Or ping pong balls which are also celluloid.

i can see where you might get the idea of a vintage celluloid pickguard being highly flammable since one particular celluloid has a quite famously low ignition temperature.

True celluloid is a very early plastic made mostly of cellulose nitrate and camphor. However most end user products made of celluloid included other things in the mix like dyes and flame retardants. So yes, vintage true celluloid pickguards are more flammable than more sophisticated plastics which came later which melt before they burn, but even true celluloid vintage guards are not as combustible as you might think because of the added flame retardants.

Entire accordion outer cases, keys and buttons are still often made of celluloid, but again this celluloid has added flame retardants just like a pickguard does, so accordions made up largely of celluloid except for the bellows aren't really all that combustible either.

The most famous highly flammable celluloid is vintage motion picture prints. Film prints were made of celluloid into the 1950's when they switched to acetate, but celluloid film lacked any flame retardant components and stability binders used in pickguards, accordions, dolls, jewelery or billiard balls...so celluloid film was way more flammable even when new. Film prints is the one celluloid that is truly a high fire risk. After decades of aging the nitrate in movie prints starts breaking down making it even more highly flammable. Celluloid film had a very low ignition temperature of about 150 degrees F burning astonishingly rapidly in the first place even before aging starts breaking the nitrate down which causes the film print to literally sweats super combustible nitrate lowering the ignition temperature.

Celluloid used in musical instruments and celluloid used in movie prints have vastly different ignition temperatures, long term stability and combustion properties even though the basic core compound of cellulose nitrate and camphor makes them both technically a celluloid. Some guitar picks are still technically a celluloid even today and they don't spontaneously burn either!


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Post subject: Re: 1972 Fender P Bass
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:40 am
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JEALOUS!!!! I have been dreaming of owning a real 72 P Bass for years... mainly because I was born in 72... had my hands on one in 95 and it was only 350,.... but the shop owner decided to rip me off on my deposit and my pride wouldn't allow me to continue doing business with him... hindsight makes me wish I woulda just sucked it up and bought it... ugh... losing that and my ORIGINAL 70s SVT blue line... :evil: :cry: :x

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Post subject: Re: 1972 Fender P Bass
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:35 pm
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I want to know more about flammable parts of guitars. Ignition temps etc. Spontanious combustion may not be unheard of with guitars . If people can burn up sitting in a rocking chair..well then ...so can a bass. I may have heard of that once. Or maybe not.I like the smell of celluloid. At least I think it was celluloid. This is no laughing matter. Didn't Jimi Hendrixs' axe catch fire? :shock:


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Post subject: Re: 1972 Fender P Bass
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:49 pm
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Once after practice my band and I were sitting around a table with an ashtray on it. People were smoking and putting their cigs out etc in the tray. All of a sudden a blue-ish large flame plummed up out of the ashtray about 6 inches high and lasted 4-5 seconds.

We were all kind of shocked and baffled until another day it happened again. We found the source of this mysterious flame was a tortise shell-like guitar pick! Wow talk about flammable!! This occured in the early 80s.


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Post subject: Re: 1972 Fender P Bass
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:02 pm
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Celluloid guitar pics are way more flammable because they are thinner, less dense and have no flame retardants because that makes them stiffer. Hendrix needed Ronsonol lighter fluid. But once he got them going. True celluloid is flammable. It is made of cellulose nitrate which is by itself highly flammable. Without flame retardants it burns good. Modern pickguards and finishes are not as flammable as the vintage ones which had one kind of nitro or another on the non metal surfaces! Still never saw one actually catch on fire without using lighter fluid.


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Post subject: Re: 1972 Fender P Bass
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:29 pm
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Well Dave, I guess 'us musicians' do have dangerous jobs/hobbies! (well sort of :wink: )


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