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Post subject: Graphite reinforcement in Fender necks?
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:38 am
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Does this change the sound of the bass as compared to the USA basses that don't have them?

Does maple neck wood quality, type and physical makeup have any effect on the sound of a bass?


Does finish on a maple neck have any effect on how a bass sounds?


sorry I posted this topic now or maybe not-- easy to be mis-understood lately- I guess I'll give it a rest - maybe next year---see ya' !!!! :D


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Post subject: Re: Graphite reinforcement in Fender necks?
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:58 am
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In my opinion, Yes. It all goes into how a bass sounds. HOWEVER, when judging a bass it's important to remember that what really matters is how it sounds to you. If you find one with the rods you dig. By all means. Personally as I prefer vintage P necks I think it's a waste and gimmick. However, if I was a J player I might have a different opinion.

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Post subject: Re: Graphite reinforcement in Fender necks?
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:06 pm
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I have both! I happen to like the modern neck on my 2012 Am. Std Jazz very much. I can't see where it would change the sound at all, it just makes for a more stable neck. I switch back and forth between my vintage '76 7 1/4" radius white P neck to my 9 1/2" radius rosewood fretboard Jazz neck all the time with no trouble.

Makes me want a 7 1/4 - 12" compound radius neck all the more with a Pau Ferro fretboard. On a lefty Dimension please. :mrgreen:

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Post subject: Re: Graphite reinforcement in Fender necks?
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:16 am
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I have both! I happen to like the modern neck on my 2012 Am. Std Jazz very much. I can't see where it would change the sound at all, it just makes for a more stable neck. I switch back and forth between my vintage '76 7 1/4" radius white P neck to my 9 1/2" radius rosewood fretboard Jazz neck all the time with no trouble.

Makes me want a 7 1/4 - 12" compound radius neck all the more with a Pau Ferro fretboard. On a lefty Dimension please. :mrgreen:


True, but you can't hear the difference between a tube amp and a modelling amp. :wink:

On a serious note, While it's not a dimension. Have you checked out that Vintage Hotrod P? Not my cup of tea, but you'd be hard pressed to find a higher end production run bass for cheaper, imo. Vintage spec pick ups, p/j configuration, high mass bridge, deluxe hardware and extras, choice finishes on different parts of the bass, graphite rods, compound vintage to 12" radius? That's some serious specs right there. Basically as close to the Custom Shop as you can get for a factory run. All for a really decent price. (Well, comparatively anyhow)

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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:23 am
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Post subject: Re: Graphite reinforcement in Fender necks?
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:51 am
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I am not sure which models offer graphite reinforcement in their necks but I would consider that an upgrade and anything the keeps the neck from shifting away from a preferred setup is a plus, IMO.

I don't think that I could hear a difference between basses solely because of graphite rods.

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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:30 am
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BCbassman wrote:
I am not sure which models offer graphite reinforcement in their necks but I would consider that an upgrade and anything the keeps the neck from shifting away from a preferred setup is a plus, IMO.

I don't think that I could hear a difference between basses solely because of graphite rods.


Hear! Hear! Give BCbassman a donut! A more stable neck is a better sounding neck. Not only does it not muddy up the mids, it helps to clarify them and eliminates any 'dead spots'. The graphite reinforcements in the American made Fender Jazz necks is a HUGE plus.


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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:13 am
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Post subject: Re: Graphite reinforcement in Fender necks?
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:39 am
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P's with muddy mids? That's just silly. Unstable necks? Must be a J problem. I think the lesson here is that Leo got it right the first time. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Graphite reinforcement in Fender necks?
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:48 pm
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P's with muddy mids? That's just silly. Unstable necks? Must be a J problem. I think the lesson here is that Leo got it right the first time. :wink:


You get a donut too, KofP! This is the Precision forum after all, right? Precision necks are wide and fat enough not to twist or be unstable. The white necks don't have any 'dead spots'. At least mine doesn't. My mids flat out level small cities like Pittsburgh, or Cleveland. :twisted:

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stroker vance wrote:
well I guess I don't know @#$% right?


No donuts for you :cry:


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Post subject: Re: Graphite reinforcement in Fender necks?
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:56 pm
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Leo got it right until your neck twists or warps, or your truss rod breaks, then you are on your own!

Stoker- I am not knocking your knowledge. You hear what you hear and I hear what I hear and they will never be the same. That's it.

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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:10 pm
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BCbassman wrote:
Leo got it right until your neck twists or warps, or your truss rod breaks, then you are on your own!

Stoker- I am not knocking your knowledge. You hear what you hear and I hear what I hear and they will never be the same. That's it.



I don't know. I've been playing since I was 12. I turn 40 this year. I've never had a P twist, warp or break on me. Like I said. Maybe it's a J issue. Or a lack of proper care issue. Or a thin C profile issue. Don't see a lot of the old early 50's baseball bat necks with issues like that. I love Leo, but I have to be honest. Everything he did past the P doesn't compare. That includes Musicman and G&L. Fender keeps trying to fix what was never broken.

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Post subject: Re: Graphite reinforcement in Fender necks?
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But it would be nice to have the choice, yay or nay.


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Post subject: Re: Graphite reinforcement in Fender necks?
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I have Fenders with the rods, and Fenders without them - and have owned plenty of each, besides the ones I currently own... IMO/IME, the rods don't make any difference sound-wise, but do make a neck more stable... Gigging here in upstate NY can be rough on gear at times - and the basses I have with posiflex rods have held setups more consistantly in weather extremes than those without... Also, multi laminate necks like my Gibson T-bird, Schecter Hellraiser-5, and various Ibanez 5ers I've owned have been pretty stable, too...



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