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Post subject: Standard, Vintage 58 and Vintage 62 Pickups Comparison?
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Can someone please help explain to a newb the characteristic differences between these pickups? Fender site doesn't say much.

I know, "Go try for yourself, knucklehead!" lol

Well my unseasoned playing ear needs to know what to look for, could use some help from those with more seasoned and articulate bass hearing.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!


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JK457 wrote:
Can someone please help explain to a newb the characteristic differences between these pickups? Fender site doesn't say much.

I know, "Go try for yourself, knucklehead!" lol

Well my unseasoned playing ear needs to know what to look for, could use some help from those with more seasoned and articulate bass hearing.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!



You could check Youtube. I know there's a demo video of the current 58 and 63 on the Fender site. Not sure about the American Standard. I've never had the pleasure of playing a 58 pick up yet. I have the previous 57 model, but it's definitely a different sounding pick up. I used to have a parts bass that I put a set of the old 62RI pups in. Man, that bass sounded great. Like every 60's classic rock song that had really killer bass you could hear in it. Really great tone. I'd imagine the 63 is similar. I know when Keith Richards used to record basslines for the Stones he would use his 63. So that's what that will sound like. Rich, smooth, and commanding. A great representation of a 62 Precision would be anything Motown by James Jamerson. Just thick, rich, thump. Really great.

In terms of describing them. I'd describe the American Standard as very "clean". Normally I'd say "neutered" or "sanitized", but it's not necessarily that it's a bad tone. Because it's not. It's very modern, and dependable. To my ears it doesn't sound like a P "should", but that's just personal preference. It sounds more like a modern high quality replacement pick up. However, It will fit right at home pretty much anywhere. The 58 from what I've heard in demos is different from both the 57RI and 59RI. Though it might be closer to the 59. The 57 with the Raised A has a very beautiful mid range. Very punchy. Which makes it sound slightly less thumpy. Not because it doesn't have the lows of the other P pick ups, but simply because it's output is more evenly balanced. The 59 has a very, very smooth tone. Not overly aggressive in any register. Very rich. Less melodic and punchy than the 57, but less gritty and thumpy than the 62. This pick up sounds absolutely fantastic with a set of Fender nickel wound roundwounds. It sounds almost "smoky". I don't know if that makes sense, but it's what it leaves me with. From the demo I heard the 58 is similar, but a bit brighter. A bit like the 57 in that respect. Very "barky". It's a very in your face type of tone as opposed to the smoothness of the 59, but in a good way. The 62RI is a gold standard for popular music. It's rich, deep thump is the split coil Precision tone that most people talk about when they say "P" tone.

Honestly, I'm most partial to the old Single Coil P's and my preferences after would be the 57, 59, probably the 62 or 58 in a tie, and the 63. In all honesty though they all sound amazing, and like a P bass "should" sound, imo.

I hope that wasn't too lame, or confusing of a description. Good luck. If you stick with the Vintage Series, or CS basses or pick ups it's pretty hard to go wrong.

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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:30 am
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Not sure about the internal construction of the 58 pups, or the electronics on the other end, but they evidently have the raised A poles, like the 57. Just starting to look for a backup to my 57 and am considering a 58, but haven't test drove one yet, and beyond inquiring about the A poles, have not done much research.

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TheKingofPain wrote:
JK457 wrote:
Can someone please help explain to a newb the characteristic differences between these pickups? Fender site doesn't say much.

I know, "Go try for yourself, knucklehead!" lol

Well my unseasoned playing ear needs to know what to look for, could use some help from those with more seasoned and articulate bass hearing.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!



You could check Youtube. I know there's a demo video of the current 58 and 63 on the Fender site. Not sure about the American Standard. I've never had the pleasure of playing a 58 pick up yet. I have the previous 57 model, but it's definitely a different sounding pick up. I used to have a parts bass that I put a set of the old 62RI pups in. Man, that bass sounded great. Like every 60's classic rock song that had really killer bass you could hear in it. Really great tone. I'd imagine the 63 is similar. I know when Keith Richards used to record basslines for the Stones he would use his 63. So that's what that will sound like. Rich, smooth, and commanding. A great representation of a 62 Precision would be anything Motown by James Jamerson. Just thick, rich, thump. Really great.

In terms of describing them. I'd describe the American Standard as very "clean". Normally I'd say "neutered" or "sanitized", but it's not necessarily that it's a bad tone. Because it's not. It's very modern, and dependable. To my ears it doesn't sound like a P "should", but that's just personal preference. It sounds more like a modern high quality replacement pick up. However, It will fit right at home pretty much anywhere. The 58 from what I've heard in demos is different from both the 57RI and 59RI. Though it might be closer to the 59. The 57 with the Raised A has a very beautiful mid range. Very punchy. Which makes it sound slightly less thumpy. Not because it doesn't have the lows of the other P pick ups, but simply because it's output is more evenly balanced. The 59 has a very, very smooth tone. Not overly aggressive in any register. Very rich. Less melodic and punchy than the 57, but less gritty and thumpy than the 62. This pick up sounds absolutely fantastic with a set of Fender nickel wound roundwounds. It sounds almost "smoky". I don't know if that makes sense, but it's what it leaves me with. From the demo I heard the 58 is similar, but a bit brighter. A bit like the 57 in that respect. Very "barky". It's a very in your face type of tone as opposed to the smoothness of the 59, but in a good way. The 62RI is a gold standard for popular music. It's rich, deep thump is the split coil Precision tone that most people talk about when they say "P" tone.

Honestly, I'm most partial to the old Single Coil P's and my preferences after would be the 57, 59, probably the 62 or 58 in a tie, and the 63. In all honesty though they all sound amazing, and like a P bass "should" sound, imo.

I hope that wasn't too lame, or confusing of a description. Good luck. If you stick with the Vintage Series, or CS basses or pick ups it's pretty hard to go wrong.


Hell no that was far from lame! If anything that was in-depth and humane, thank you!

Now I have good frames of reference. Had little luck on Youtube and Fender site, but maybe have to dig deeper. I have been playing punk rock and classic rock (and a whole other gamut) for years, am way more old school that modern. Like to play brash and refined too. But if there is no power to feed the brash side, we're not happenin'.

Sounds like the 57 or 58 would be good for the punk rock and Sabbathy stuff I'm into. Maybe 62 is better when vibing some Cream, Hendrix, Steppenwolf? Will look further into it.

Right now playing a 2003 Squire P. 100 dollah lol. Will be getting a new P. before year end. Have a feeling there will be a wall of basses within five years lol.

Thanks again, will report with feedback later.


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Not sure about the internal construction of the 58 pups, or the electronics on the other end, but they evidently have the raised A poles, like the 57. Just starting to look for a backup to my 57 and am considering a 58, but haven't test drove one yet, and beyond inquiring about the A poles, have not done much research.



They have definitely changed the construction on both the 58 and 63 from the 57 and 62. They have stated so officially, and if you watch the two demo videos on the site they definitely have different personalities than the 57 and 62. Though, I like them both and they both sound killer. Interestingly enough, I too have been contemplating backing up my 57RI with a 58 at somepoint. I went with the White Blonde on the 57. I'm thinking black for the 58. Where are you at with it? Though, part of me is still convinced I should search for a used CS 59 with a maple board. I know they're out there. In any event, of the 4 AVS Precision models it would be extremely hard to go wrong.

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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:17 pm
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JK457 wrote:
Can someone please help explain to a newb the characteristic differences between these pickups? Fender site doesn't say much.

I know, "Go try for yourself, knucklehead!" lol

Well my unseasoned playing ear needs to know what to look for, could use some help from those with more seasoned and articulate bass hearing.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!



You could check Youtube. I know there's a demo video of the current 58 and 63 on the Fender site. Not sure about the American Standard. I've never had the pleasure of playing a 58 pick up yet. I have the previous 57 model, but it's definitely a different sounding pick up. I used to have a parts bass that I put a set of the old 62RI pups in. Man, that bass sounded great. Like every 60's classic rock song that had really killer bass you could hear in it. Really great tone. I'd imagine the 63 is similar. I know when Keith Richards used to record basslines for the Stones he would use his 63. So that's what that will sound like. Rich, smooth, and commanding. A great representation of a 62 Precision would be anything Motown by James Jamerson. Just thick, rich, thump. Really great.

In terms of describing them. I'd describe the American Standard as very "clean". Normally I'd say "neutered" or "sanitized", but it's not necessarily that it's a bad tone. Because it's not. It's very modern, and dependable. To my ears it doesn't sound like a P "should", but that's just personal preference. It sounds more like a modern high quality replacement pick up. However, It will fit right at home pretty much anywhere. The 58 from what I've heard in demos is different from both the 57RI and 59RI. Though it might be closer to the 59. The 57 with the Raised A has a very beautiful mid range. Very punchy. Which makes it sound slightly less thumpy. Not because it doesn't have the lows of the other P pick ups, but simply because it's output is more evenly balanced. The 59 has a very, very smooth tone. Not overly aggressive in any register. Very rich. Less melodic and punchy than the 57, but less gritty and thumpy than the 62. This pick up sounds absolutely fantastic with a set of Fender nickel wound roundwounds. It sounds almost "smoky". I don't know if that makes sense, but it's what it leaves me with. From the demo I heard the 58 is similar, but a bit brighter. A bit like the 57 in that respect. Very "barky". It's a very in your face type of tone as opposed to the smoothness of the 59, but in a good way. The 62RI is a gold standard for popular music. It's rich, deep thump is the split coil Precision tone that most people talk about when they say "P" tone.

Honestly, I'm most partial to the old Single Coil P's and my preferences after would be the 57, 59, probably the 62 or 58 in a tie, and the 63. In all honesty though they all sound amazing, and like a P bass "should" sound, imo.

I hope that wasn't too lame, or confusing of a description. Good luck. If you stick with the Vintage Series, or CS basses or pick ups it's pretty hard to go wrong.


Hell no that was far from lame! If anything that was in-depth and humane, thank you!

Now I have good frames of reference. Had little luck on Youtube and Fender site, but maybe have to dig deeper. I have been playing punk rock and classic rock (and a whole other gamut) for years, am way more old school that modern. Like to play brash and refined too. But if there is no power to feed the brash side, we're not happenin'.

Sounds like the 57 or 58 would be good for the punk rock and Sabbathy stuff I'm into. Maybe 62 is better when vibing some Cream, Hendrix, Steppenwolf? Will look further into it.

Right now playing a 2003 Squire P. 100 dollah lol. Will be getting a new P. before year end. Have a feeling there will be a wall of basses within five years lol.

Thanks again, will report with feedback later.


It's really, really interesting you bring up Sabbath and punk rock. I do believe that Geezer has in his stable for recording and has for years a 59 Precision. Interestingly enough. The CS 59 Precision bass is also the pick up in the Mike Dirnt Bass. (though I'm more of a classic 70's punk guy. His tone is great.)

So if that's the tone you're chasing. A CS 59 Precision, or at least the pick up will get you there. For the late 60's and early 70's Classic rock it would be impossible to go wrong with any of the following models. (62RI, 63RI, CS 59, CS Pino which is a 63, CS 64 or the Sean Hurley Sig which is a 61) All those basses are capable of giving you truly classic Precision Rock tones.

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They have definitely changed the construction on both the 58 and 63 from the 57 and 62. They have stated so officially, and if you watch the two demo videos on the site they definitely have different personalities than the 57 and 62. Though, I like them both and they both sound killer. Interestingly enough, I too have been contemplating backing up my 57RI with a 58 at somepoint. I went with the White Blonde on the 57. I'm thinking black for the 58. Where are you at with it? Though, part of me is still convinced I should search for a used CS 59 with a maple board. I know they're out there. In any event, of the 4 AVS Precision models it would be extremely hard to go wrong.


Just starting to look. The AV57RI has been my #1 for about a year now. I have the same transparent blonde finish you have. I will pass along anything research that is of interest, in the meantime, I am looking for another 57. I am also looking for an original 57 as I have nothing between 52 and 63, and 57 was the year of the big changes.

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Oh my gosh- I would be afraid to try and describe 2 different pickups named after two different years way in the past that are made like this year with new magnets and wire etc. I say this because I could play these pickups in different basses that are the same thru 5 different amps that are different and I would maybe hear a different or the same tone every time I touched a knob. You have in all reality only so many things a pickup can be described as. I've heard people describe pickups completely different from what I would describe them as. No matter what answer anyone would give about how a pickup sounds including the maker when it comes down to it one goes with what they like or what they THINK they should have for a certain application. The same chance for both exists as to it sounding like it should- but at least if you put a 62 in a 62 you can say= well ,, it has a 62 in a 62 and so on and so forth

LOUD /HIGH OUTPUT--- BASSIE----LOTS OF HIGHS----LOW OUTPUT--- NICE MIDRANGE---BALANCED----GOOD FOR JAZZ---GOOD FOR ROCK--- MAKES THE WINDS OF THOR BLOW DOWN FROM HEAVENS GATES ( my favorite) :D

Another thing is that I can put any pickup in one of my basses and play it THEN take the neck off the bass and put the neck of another bass on the original bass that I took the neck off of and the pickup will most likely sound different. Try it and tell me I'm wrong.

:idea: Sad but true== if you want a 59 pickup to get you that sound of a real 59 bass--- I think you are going to have to buy a 1959 pickup. AND THEN you could put that real 59 pickup in a DUD bass and it could sound like you just spent a ton of money on an average pickup... ???????????????????????????????????????????? :?:


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They have definitely changed the construction on both the 58 and 63 from the 57 and 62. They have stated so officially, and if you watch the two demo videos on the site they definitely have different personalities than the 57 and 62. Though, I like them both and they both sound killer. Interestingly enough, I too have been contemplating backing up my 57RI with a 58 at somepoint. I went with the White Blonde on the 57. I'm thinking black for the 58. Where are you at with it? Though, part of me is still convinced I should search for a used CS 59 with a maple board. I know they're out there. In any event, of the 4 AVS Precision models it would be extremely hard to go wrong.


Just starting to look. The AV57RI has been my #1 for about a year now. I have the same transparent blonde finish you have. I will pass along anything research that is of interest, in the meantime, I am looking for another 57. I am also looking for an original 57 as I have nothing between 52 and 63, and 57 was the year of the big changes.

Steve


Thanks, Steve. That'd be awesome. I found a guy online that has two beat mid 80's 57RIs in CAR and Fiesta. They look like real monsters. Unfortunately, he is asking CS prices for them. As killer as the CS is. Part of me really hates that they stopped doing the Custom Colors on the AVS line where the 50's basses are concerned. The 63 got some this year, and the guitars always get some here and there. Seems like us 50's bass guys get the cold shoulder. It would have been great to get a 58 P in something like Shell Pink, or Surf Green or the like. I really appreciate the offer to keep me in the loop. Outside of the CS single coil P's the 57RI is definitely my favorite. That Raised A is something special.

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Oh my gosh- I would be afraid to try and describe 2 different pickups named after two different years way in the past that are made like this year with new magnets and wire etc. I say this because I could play these pickups in different basses that are the same thru 5 different amps that are different and I would maybe hear a different or the same tone every time I touched a knob. You have in all reality only so many things a pickup can be described as. I've heard people describe pickups completely different from what I would describe them as. No matter what answer anyone would give about how a pickup sounds including the maker when it comes down to it one goes with what they like or what they THINK they should have for a certain application. The same chance for both exists as to it sounding like it should- but at least if you put a 62 in a 62 you can say= well ,, it has a 62 in a 62 and so on and so forth

LOUD /HIGH OUTPUT--- BASSIE----LOTS OF HIGHS----LOW OUTPUT--- NICE MIDRANGE---BALANCED----GOOD FOR JAZZ---GOOD FOR ROCK--- MAKES THE WINDS OF THOR BLOW DOWN FROM HEAVENS GATES ( my favorite) :D

Another thing is that I can put any pickup in one of my basses and play it THEN take the neck off the bass and put the neck of another bass on the original bass that I took the neck off of and the pickup will most likely sound different. Try it and tell me I'm wrong.

:idea: Sad but true== if you want a 59 pickup to get you that sound of a real 59 bass--- I think you are going to have to buy a 1959 pickup. AND THEN you could put that real 59 pickup in a DUD bass and it could sound like you just spent a ton of money on an average pickup... ???????????????????????????????????????????? :?:



A good point. The 59 I've tried had an Alder/RW combo. Sounded great. This is also the most common configuration for this bass. If you want to hear the difference between the maple/RW luckily Mike Dirnt got you covered with that last year. His new Roadworn model comes with both options. The 62 I had was an Alder/RW. Which is the standard. The 57 I own, and the 58 I heard on the Fender site were Ash/Maple. I did a little research on Youtube and the alder bodied 58 is a little more mellow. More subdued. As always every single set of pick ups and every single bass is unique.

As far as getting a real 59. I don't know. I'd trust the CS to do it as right as possible. Geezer is not the only musician I know of who plays other basses live but tends to record with a 59. Nikki Sixx is another. Something about that year must record well. Over the years I've heard of several bassists who keep a 59 in their stable.

As always, as the OP said. "Go try one". There is never, ever, ever any substitute for having a bass in your hands. While the quality of either the AVS or CS basses are good enough that I have zero issue ordering a bass online. It is a LOT of money and you definitely want to do every single bit of research up front until you know specifically which models you dig and why. I know what I like over years of playing. I know what I don't like. So I know what I'm looking for going in.

Also, one word of warning to the OP. The necks of the AVS basses will be wider and thicker than the squier you are used to. So you will likely want to play one before putting any money down. Getting a really high end, killer sounding bass is no fun if you don't enjoy playing it.

Good luck to everyone on the hunt here!

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"Also, one word of warning to the OP. The necks of the AVS basses will be wider and thicker than the squier you are used to. So you will likely want to play one before putting any money down. Getting a really high end, killer sounding bass is no fun if you don't enjoy playing it."


I just looked up the neck radius on a Squier and it say 9.5", and on the AV '63 is actually says 7.25". And nut width 1.65" and 1.74" respectively.

On the thickness side, at least according to what I found on Fender's site, AVS neck is much thinner and just slightly wider. Am I missing something?

Think I'll go for a Guitar Center loiter sesh on the way to band practice today lol, see what's on the wall.


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Possibly. Radius is not thickness. Sort of. The lower the radius the more wood there is on the fingerboard. The lower the radius the greater the curve of the fingerboard. So a 7.25 neck is rounder than a 9.5 or a 12. Moreover, Unless I'm missing something Fender doesn't usually list the neck "thickness". They usually just list the profile. For instance. A 51 will have a B width (1.625) neck, with a rounder 7.25 radius, and a fat U shaped neck. A mid 50's P will have the same width and radius, but a soft V profile. Which while still deep is more steep and for some comfortable. A 57 has a 1.75 width (C width), with the 7.25 radius and a thick C profile. This "generally" carries through til the 70's. Where the necks return to the 50's B width that you know on your Squier. (1.625) The vintage radius 7.25, and a thin C profile. Somewhere in the 80's after the sale of Fender back from CBS to FMIC the radius changed to the 9.5 you know. This sometimes gives the illusion of the neck being fatter in the back. However, this is really just because the fingerboard is flatter so your fingers need to stretch farther near the center of the neck than they would on a vintage radius neck. Mind you there are many "classic" style basses that mock neck widths from vintage models but don't actually use the vintage radius. (The classic 70's models, the Dirnt, any of the 51 style necks outside of the CS or Sting like the Cabronita and Tele basses). These all use the neck width specs but use a modern 9.5 radius with medium jumbo frets. Now, there are certain "special" necks out there. Certain years. Some highly sought after. Dirnt's neck is a HUGELY fat almost D shaped neck, and it's SUPER wide. Like beyond 1.75 I believe. It's modeled after his 69, but with the modern radius and appointments on the frets. Then there's the Nate Mendel (sp?) P bass. Which is a fair representation of the highly sought after 70's A width Precision neck. (A width is Jazz width) However, this A width isn't really a true Jazz A width. (1.5) It's in between the A and B. (Between 1.5 and 1.625) At 1.615. A really cool neck. So a Thick neck is generally a vintage neck. Modern necks are usually fairly thin. So either of the AVS basses should be both wider, and thicker than your neck. Plus, they will have the rounder radius.

If you want a really cool vintage spec bass that is closer to your Squier the Mendel might not be a bad idea. It's a thin C thickness, slightly more narrow than your squier, has the nitro lacquer body and neck and has the vintage radius. It's a really, really sweet bass. SO it's a true vintage reissue of a 71 Precision. Which will still play close to what you're used to.

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Also, these are just some of the "Standards" and a few well known oddballs. There are ALWAYS interesting exceptions that pop up. 57 and 58 P's with the soft V. 70's U shaped P necks. Fender guitarists talk about the "alchemy" of Fender necks all the time in regards to their guitars. However, the Precision bass has some really amazing history when it comes to necks. Some really incredible playing necks, and some real oddball "holy grail" type stuff. I can tell you that if I ever find a 57 split coil with a 56 spec neck I'd sell my soul for it. It doesn't get as much lip service, but if Brotherdave wanders in here he can give you TONS more info than I ever could.

They've written books about Fender basses, but I don't know if any have really ever delved deep enough. The Precision as an evolution is really something special. When it comes to necks there really is NO substitute for laying hands on a particular model. Until you've played a bunch of different specs you might never grasp it. The amount of diversity in even the current Fender Precision line up is pretty staggering.

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Also, these are just some of the "Standards" and a few well known oddballs. There are ALWAYS interesting exceptions that pop up. 57 and 58 P's with the soft V. 70's U shaped P necks. Fender guitarists talk about the "alchemy" of Fender necks all the time in regards to their guitars. However, the Precision bass has some really amazing history when it comes to necks. Some really incredible playing necks, and some real oddball "holy grail" type stuff. I can tell you that if I ever find a 57 split coil with a 56 spec neck I'd sell my soul for it. It doesn't get as much lip service, but if Brotherdave wanders in here he can give you TONS more info than I ever could.

They've written books about Fender basses, but I don't know if any have really ever delved deep enough. The Precision as an evolution is really something special. When it comes to necks there really is NO substitute for laying hands on a particular model. Until you've played a bunch of different specs you might never grasp it. The amount of diversity in even the current Fender Precision line up is pretty staggering.


Thanks so much for your input! Looks like I have some playing to do. At least I am now more comfortable and good at playing bass and better-informed than when I bought the Squier four months ago. Should be pretty easy to tell if that wider neck will work or not. I don't have much digit span, so could be a problem...or not, we'll see.

Went to the Guitar Center closest to me (smaller GC branch) and they had zero vintage P in stock. But the one in Hollywood has always been the main branch around here, maybe they have some AVS there. Played an American Standard today and it felt similar to the Squire except much better. Played it unplugged, though.

Will report back here when I get some pluck time on more basses. Would love to shine work tomorrow and fart around with this lol.


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Post subject: Re: Standard, Vintage 58 and Vintage 62 Pickups Comparison?
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:13 am
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TheKingOfPain wrote:
Somewhere in the 80's after the sale of Fender back from CBS to FMIC the radius changed to the 9.5 you know.


+1

During the transition to the FMIC era Fender offered a handful of select basses with the 12'' radius.


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