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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:03 pm
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How dose the 50's P bass play. How dose it sound. I would like a P bass with a maple neck. I like the American standard but the 50's is a lot less.


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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:36 am
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Get the 57 reissue instead. It's made in America so it costs more, but with that comes better fit and finish and it sounds awesome.

http://www.fender.com/products//search. ... 0190115801

I've got one in the two-tone sunburst and it's my No.2 bass right now behind my Custom Shop 59 reissue.


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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:58 pm
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Here's my take. If you have the cash to get the 57RI, then as far as fit and finish, yes, it is a superior bass. However, some people do not like the raised A pole pup. I love it, but it's very aggressive in the mids and that can be hard for some to handle. As far as the Classic 50's, it is an incredible bass for the money. All the Classic Series basses are. Is an AVS57 RI worth twice as much as a Classic 50's P? That's an individual question, to me, no. The Classic 50's will last just as long, sounds just as good, though different, and plays just as nice. However, if I had 1500 bucks to blow on a bass the AVS 57 would be the one I went with. All that said, I'd play an Classic 50's P over a NAS P anyday, no matter what the price. However, I prefer the RI and Classic basses to the modern ones. Your experience may vary.


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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:48 pm
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TheKingofPain wrote:
Here's my take. If you have the cash to get the 57RI, then as far as fit and finish, yes, it is a superior bass. However, some people do not like the raised A pole pup. I love it, but it's very aggressive in the mids and that can be hard for some to handle. As far as the Classic 50's, it is an incredible bass for the money. All the Classic Series basses are. Is an AVS57 RI worth twice as much as a Classic 50's P? That's an individual question, to me, no. The Classic 50's will last just as long, sounds just as good, though different, and plays just as nice. However, if I had 1500 bucks to blow on a bass the AVS 57 would be the one I went with. All that said, I'd play an Classic 50's P over a NAS P anyday, no matter what the price. However, I prefer the RI and Classic basses to the modern ones. Your experience may vary.


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Good advice. The classic also has a polyurethane finish, whereas the 57 vintage reissue is nitrocellulose, which affects the tone.


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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:48 pm
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you could also take a look at the Mike Dirnt precision. it has a rosewood neck, but it has a 50's bass slab shape, custom shop '59 p-us, and a badass II bridge. i think it's the same price as the 50's bass. personally I really like it. it's actually modeled after the telecaster bass, made in 1951.

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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:36 pm
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Actually, The Telecaster Bass was a ReIssue of the Original Precision Bass made in the late 60's. FMIC's current 51RI (of which I am a proud owner) is a more faithful reissue. The Mike Dirnt P has the forearm contour like, I believe, the 54' P bass had. (no back contour) The Dirnt is a very nice bass, however, it's neck is modeled after Mike's late 60's P, and is basically like playing a Louisville Slugger sawed in half. Super wide and super thick. If you've got really big hands you may just dig that. It's a really cool bass that borrows things through out the P bass' lineage, and one that shows just how cool MD is as a bassist and an artist.

The 57RI feels much like The Classic 50's P as they have the same neck. (Actually most of the hardware is identical too.) The 57RI however, does come in both alder and ash, and has the nitro finish. Which when it ages is said to let the wood breathe more then poly. Overall AVS basses are pretty amazing instruments. The raised A in the 57 is usually a love it or hate it thing though. If you like that old school tone, it's one sound that is unmistakable and never goes out of style, especially with a nice old grimmy set of Fender 9050ML's. Next to a Single Coil P bass (51RI, Sting, or CS 55P) it's my favorite P bass tone.

I really wish you guys searching for your dream bass the best of luck.


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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:09 am
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TheKingofPain wrote:
The 57RI however, does come in both alder and ash, and has the nitro finish. Which when it ages is said to let the wood breathe more then poly. Overall AVS basses are pretty amazing instruments. The raised A in the 57 is usually a love it or hate it thing though. If you like that old school tone, it's one sound that is unmistakable and never goes out of style, especially with a nice old grimmy set of Fender 9050ML's. Next to a Single Coil P bass (51RI, Sting, or CS 55P) it's my favorite P bass tone.

I really wish you guys searching for your dream bass the best of luck.

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When I got my 57RI the first thing I did was put a set of Fender 9050MLs on it and I about fell out of my chair first time I played it with those strings! It indeed was the old-school tone I'd been looking for many years!

As an aside, I tried a set of D'Addario flats on my CS59 P and am changing those out now for the 9050s as well. The D'Addario's are fine strings but just not as "thumpy" as I'd like for classic old-school Fender tone.


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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:57 pm
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the 50's is my personal favorite bass, love the glossy maple neck. real fun to play.
it's also the only bass i've ever owned that i've been complimented on the sound


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For the money, the Classic 50's P bass and the 51RI are the best basses for the buck that Fender is putting out. Actually, money aside, those basses stack up to other Fender basses that cost almost double, so they're just great basses.


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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:40 pm
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My concern with the 51 is you've apparently got to remove the neck to adjust the truss rod? I'd opt for the Sting signature model if that's the case.


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The Sting is a 53' RI, of sorts, but it's the same as a 51 or the same as any other vintage spec Fender Bass. 57, 62, or any real vintage Fender you'd need to either remove the pickguard, or loosen then neck bolts to get at the trussrod. With the 51 and Sting, removing the guard is simple and nowhere near the hassle that it is with a split coil. That said, I just loosened the neck bolts to adjust mine. The old B width necks are very chunky front to back and don't move much anyhow. Once they're set it's usually a once a year thing at most.


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TheKingofPain wrote:
The Sting is a 53' RI, of sorts, but it's the same as a 51 or the same as any other vintage spec Fender Bass. 57, 62, or any real vintage Fender you'd need to either remove the pickguard, or loosen then neck bolts to get at the trussrod. With the 51 and Sting, removing the guard is simple and nowhere near the hassle that it is with a split coil. That said, I just loosened the neck bolts to adjust mine. The old B width necks are very chunky front to back and don't move much anyhow. Once they're set it's usually a once a year thing at most.


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Once a year? Holy smokes! I guess Caifornia weather is bass (or truss rod) friendly because I never have to adjust my necks unless changing string guages. I have a friend with an original 58 or 59 P-Bass (he's never taken the neck off so he doesn't know for sure) and its neck has never moved.


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Mastermold wrote:
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The Sting is a 53' RI, of sorts, but it's the same as a 51 or the same as any other vintage spec Fender Bass. 57, 62, or any real vintage Fender you'd need to either remove the pickguard, or loosen then neck bolts to get at the trussrod. With the 51 and Sting, removing the guard is simple and nowhere near the hassle that it is with a split coil. That said, I just loosened the neck bolts to adjust mine. The old B width necks are very chunky front to back and don't move much anyhow. Once they're set it's usually a once a year thing at most.


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Once a year? Holy smokes! I guess Caifornia weather is bass (or truss rod) friendly because I never have to adjust my necks unless changing string guages. I have a friend with an original 58 or 59 P-Bass (he's never taken the neck off so he doesn't know for sure) and its neck has never moved.



Yes, California is trussrod friendly. Hence, why many problems that ended up sometimes being an issue with Fender instruments didn't present themselves until after the instruments hit the market all over the country, or world. Like the potential raising of rosewood slab boards. Not a big problem in either warm and dry, or temperate California. However, in climates that either go from very cold, to hot, or very, very hot and humid climates it sometimes became an issue. Once every year or two isn't a huge deal. Some places you need to adjust every season change, which still, really isn't a major issue.


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