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Post subject: Motowns' underrated other bass players
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:15 am
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Through the years, I listened to many Motown records, and found out, that james jamerson, was the man. Then later on, I found out about Bob babitt. Then, the real debate over Carol Kaye over james playing on Stevies's, " I was made to love her". Personally, they both might have played on the tune, but whats wrong with that? Carol Kaye is a great fender bassist, and i had the pleasure to meet her, online. she's a real soul sister, that can play her butt off, if need be. And, she does it with a pick! Now, on the jackason 5 first album, we all know that jamerson, played on some of those tracks, because of the Bobby taylor sessions. we also know, that Bob babitt, played on some Jackson 5 sessions also. The other fender bassist who gets underrated is Wlton felder of the crusaders fame, but is also, a fender bassist himself. Wilton felder, played on "I Want you back". and I would say, many other sessions for Motown "West" back then. Remember, it was around this time, that jamersons health and "heart" was broken, because of his move to " La, La Land. So, other bass players had to be brought in to take up the work. It amazes me, that Wilton felder, played on much stuff, which included non-Motown work with Barry White and his Love Unlimited Orchs' early material, and countless other sessions, while still playing tenor sax in his famous band, the Crusaders. We all know about Chuck Rainey's work with Motown, "Q", and others. Nathan Watts, playing in Stevie Wonder's band Wonderland, a True student of james jamerson also. The only sad thing here is while Jermaine jackson, is the bassist with Motowns famous band, The Jackson Five, he was never used in any of their sessions, and, i wonder about this, to this day.I guess, when you have the likes of Chuck, Carol, Wilton, and Bob, why use jermanine? On the Goin back to Indiana album, the live recording of jermaine playing, he isn't that bad, but then again, if you got a Jamerson at home, what else matters! I think my point from all this is, couldn't Carol, Wilton, and Chuck, also be Funk brothers also?


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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:26 am
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While I think Bob Babbit was largely unknown until the release of Standing IN The Shadows Of Motown, I don't think you can call either Carol Kaye or Wilton Felder "underrated." Both are well-known and revered by bass players worldwide.


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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:36 pm
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Until the movie about the Funk brothers came out, Bob Babbit was kinda "below the radar screen" also. Now, some of us bass players from 'back in the day", knew about Bob, because of his work with Dennis Coffey. I think the word 'underated", is the wrong word I used to describe non-Funk Brothers. I think the word, forgotten fits them. Just because Carol and Wilton, played on a lot of non-Motown sessions also, I was "their" work that moved "the Motown sound" along, on the West Coast. I can understand the need of bring out the story behind the Motown Sound, . I was even excited about the fact , that this movie, would show what , not only what James Jamerson went through, but what other sessions players had to go through "Back then". There is a need for a movie or something, to show all the session players, from all parts of this country, to show the public, who really made the music, we danced, we thought, and we loved by. To add to this, my real support goes to those session players who made the "Sound of Philly", after the fall of Motown. Again, like any session player seeking work, Bob, went to Philly, to help out the sound of Philly. It was at that time, bob was replacing another studio ace, The Late Ronnie baker. Ronnie baker, Earl Young, and the Late Norman Harris, broke away from their MFSB duties, to produce, arrange, and write for other non-Phila International acts. My heart goes out to all you guys who helped me, become the bass player I am today. I have a sincere love for BoB, Carol, the great Joe Osborn, Chuck, George Porter Jr the "Duck "Max Bennett, David Hood, and Tommy Cogbill. If it wasn't for thse pioneers of the new Fender bass, we wouldn't have the music we have today.


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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:26 am
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Carol Kaye is a great fender bassist, and i had the pleasure to meet her, online. she's a real soul sister, that can play her butt off, if need be. And, she does it with a pick!


That's good to know now that I have to use a pick most of time. I'm sure there is more interesting info in your posts, but they will have to be read again after another cup of coffee or two. :)


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