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Post subject: 1983 Standard Precision
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:44 pm
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Hi Everyone,

I've got the chance to buy an absolutely pristine 1983 American Standard.

Black/white pick guard/ maple/ skunk stripe/ white pup covers.

I've done a lot of research online, but can only find conflicting info.

Are these really great basses?

Does anyone know the Fullerton Factory pre-CBS sale to the private investors story accurately, please? I read that these use the same parts, tools and people as the original Pre-CBS/Leo Fender days, but I've also read stories conflicting with this.

Also, how on earth do you adjust the neck relief, please? There's the hole in the plate at the back for micro ? and the truss rod hole at the nut, but I have no tools for either.

As always, many thanks everyone.


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Post subject: Re: 1983 Standard Precision
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:18 pm
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Truss rod ; very easy; go to see there for complete set up;

http://www.fender.com/fr-FR/support/art ... etup-guide


Adjustment at neck joint (phillips screwdriver): Sight down the edge of the fingerboard from behind the body, looking up toward the headstock of the instrument. If the neck is too concave (action too high), turn the truss rod nut clockwise to remove excess relief. If the neck is too convex (strings too close to the fingerboard), turn the truss rod nut counter-clockwise to allow the string tension to pull more relief into the neck. Check your tuning, then re-check the gap with the feeler gauge and re-adjust as needed.


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Post subject: Re: 1983 Standard Precision
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:31 am
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Thanks for the reply, but I think we may be at crossed purposes.

I know how to do it on a current MIA Standard at the neck: it's on the '83 I'm unsure of, where there's a micro-shim hole in the plate and a truss rod hole at the nut.

Which comes first, what do you do in what order and with what tools?


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Post subject: Re: 1983 Standard Precision
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:00 am
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Yes I don't read correctly your question, I'm french speaking and it is not easy for me.

Micro tilt adjustment , the allen screw in the small hole in the neck plate is only to change neck/body angle. You use it ONLY if you are not able to have the proper string's action AFTER you adjust the bridge saddles.

The truss rod nut hole at the peg head is for the truss rod adjustment. You need a good quality allen key ( wrench? ) Be careful if you use the one by Fender sometimes it is a cheap tool and you can dammage the truss rod nut . The proper tool must fit thight in the truss rod nut.

You are better to adjust the right neck bow ( truss rod ) before other adjustments .


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Post subject: Re: 1983 Standard Precision
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:16 am
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There were two things going on in Fullerton in 1983. Regular production and the second year of a new series of era accurate reissues commonly referred to as "THE FULLERTON VINTAGE REISSUE SERIES." The Fullerton Reissues were a limited production run focused upon exclusively by the old hands, some of whom wound up as the first Master Builders at the Custom Shop up the road in Corona. The Fullerton Reissues were made at Fullerton from 1982 until either 85 or perhaps as late early 86 which would still be the 85 model year.

The regular production instruments during this period were mass produced as always up until the end of regular production, but the Fullerton Vintage Series were very limited in comparison and widely considered to be some of the very best basses of the CBS era, if not in fact the very best.

Fullerton Vintage Series instruments sell today for multiples of the regular production instruments of the same era and appreciate much faster due both their superior quality and relative scarcity.

The Fullerton Series Vintage Reissues are the ones you mention that were built to pre-CBS specs and not the regular production instruments that you are far more likely to run across. The Fullerton Reissues are highly sought after by both collectors and serious players as they can be considered at least equivalent if not in fact superior to a Corona Custom Shop bass. Fullertons certainly are more scarce which makes them more desirable to collectors.

The serial on the Fullerton Vintage Reissues start with "V." That "V" serial tradition started in 1982 has been in continuous use on Fender vintage reissues since. When a Fullerton "V" serial bass comes up for sale (that would probably be a V serial below V016000), it usually sells quickly. Yes the Fullerton Vintage ones are not just good basses, but truly are great basses.


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Post subject: Re: 1983 Standard Precision
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:56 pm
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But what about the 1983 American Standard, please, Brotherdave...?


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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:51 pm
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I own a 1983 Standard USA Precision. It has a single ply guard and white pickup covers. I am not looking at it right now but I can go measure etc and tell you whatever you want to know about mine. The neck does seem to be of the wider width of old Fender P basses. It has a rosewood board. It is very well made and plays very well and has that real difinitive P bass sound-- more than some of my P basses. I'd say it's worth about $1100 here where I live.
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The first thing I noticed about the bass is that it has an extra pickguard screw or two (who's counting ?... but check the pic) and now I see that it has the truss adjust at the nut- that's not like a vintage bass. I'd have another if I got a good deal.


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Post subject: Re: 1983 Standard Precision
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:13 pm
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It is very well made and plays very well and has that real difinitive P bass sound-- more than some of my P basses.


That's all I wanted to know, really!

That's a beauty, by the way.

Many thanks for your help.


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Post subject: Re: 1983 Standard Precision
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:58 am
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The mass production 83 is pretty much like the 82, 81, etc. Not much changed on them other than body weight due wood quality, available colors and pickguards. The part you mentioned about Pre-CBS specs only applies to the Fullerton Vintage Reissue Series.


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Post subject: Re: 1983 Standard Precision
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:33 am
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[quote][Does anyone know the Fullerton Factory pre-CBS sale to the private investors story accurately, please? I read that these use the same parts, tools and people as the original Pre-CBS/Leo Fender days, but I've also read stories conflicting with this.

Also, how on earth do you adjust the neck relief, please? There's the hole in the plate at the back for micro ? and the truss rod hole at the nut, but I have no tools for either./quote]

The micro-tilt is to adjust the neck angle and it works as a shim would work to push up the neck to create the proper angle and improve the action of the bass after the truss rod is adjusted.
Both the truss rod and the micro-tilt use allen wrenches. I don't know the proper size off hand, but that info is on the Fender website.
You must loosen the neck screws before adjusting the micro-tilt. Remember that a little bit goes along way.


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