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Post subject: The Wait Is Finally Over!
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:11 am
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Well hi everyone, I know a lot of you have been waiting to see what I have to say. I'm sure I'll disappoint some of you, some of you will be happy, maybe some a little sad.

I'm completely blown away by the posts concerning NICP, thank you all for your support and compliments.

This will be my last post on the Fender Forums. I've already informed Brad and just have a few comments.

I have spoken via phone and or e-mail or PM's to all my friends affected by this. They all know I do not wish to influence any decision they make concerning staying here.

As it was said, NICP was a group of friends, we have a special bond that quite frankly amazes me. All because of a stupid clown thing we have members all over the world.

Am I disappointed? Perhaps. Surprised? Not at all. Considering the situation, everything played out pretty much as I had expected.

To all of you that we helped in any small way, it was our pleasure. I know I speak for the group. I hope your love for the bass continues and you gain satisfaction every time you play.

My best to you all.

Life goes on and things change. the one thing I realize through this whole thing is:

I wouldn't change a thing considering the class of friends I have through this.


Goodbye!

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Post subject: Re: The Wait Is Finally Over!
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:21 am
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Post subject: Re: The Wait Is Finally Over!
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:49 am
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well, well, well, is that really the only way for you to handle this dispute? i vote for a over-thinking and a cooldown of the story! one does not throw away longterme friendships just because some overheated roosters are carking for their own midden (swiss proverbe for arguing).
penny, i'd really appreciate the stuff you were placing here, being part of the forum and the NICP as well. in any forum are some discontent folks, waiting for others to commit faults and run to the mods then*... in our case we can be glad about brads salomonic intervention; ok, the shutdown of the NICP-threads was a bit harsh (not only to me) but none of the chaps had to cease its membership, now everybody can be happy again.
not really up to me to give you advice... but i d'swallow my pride and find ways to let people know in a rather ironic way what i do think off'em. and let them win by leaving would be the last of my decisions: "what does the oak mind when the sow rubs!" (another proverbe for being off the hassle!)

*e.g. i was complaining of being heavily insulted in a chess-forum which i joined for years, finally i was kicked out too just because being a part of a derailed story... very nice!

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Post subject: Re: The Wait Is Finally Over!
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:10 am
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oxfan wrote:
As it was said, NICP was a group of friends, we have a special bond that quite frankly amazes me. All because of a stupid clown thing we have members all over the world...

Life goes on and things change. the one thing I realize through this whole thing is:

I wouldn't change a thing considering the class of friends I have through this.


That's the thing, isn't it? Events here can't, and won't, change this friendship between bass players from all kinds of corners of the world. I really do hope the Fender Lounge Forums will continue to be a place - with or without us lot - where such friendships can grow. What I would hate, and the thing that would cause me to leave, would be for this to become somewhere where people have continually to be looking over their shoulders in case someone reports them for cracking a joke, or making an off-the-cuff remark. We're musicians, for goodness' sake, not funeral directors :evil:

Every blessing Oxfan, Pennywise, good friend. I'll be in touch.


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Post subject: Re: The Wait Is Finally Over!
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:53 am
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Post subject: Re: The Wait Is Finally Over!
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:33 pm
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It's a very sad day when people are driven out of somewhere for expressing humor. Especially by way of whining to the mod, WITHOUT addressing the problem directly with the person you have a problem with. Preferably PRIVATELY, and absolutely RESPECTFULLY.

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Post subject: Re: The Wait Is Finally Over!
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:49 pm
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:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: and I still don't know what NICP stand for...... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Post subject: Re: The Wait Is Finally Over!
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:39 pm
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It's a very sad day when people are driven out of somewhere for expressing humor. Especially by way of whining to the mod, WITHOUT addressing the problem directly with the person you have a problem with. Preferably PRIVATELY, and absolutely RESPECTFULLY.


Slides, we weren't driven out, some of our members chose to leave. I'll be on the the 'page and on here. It doesn't matter to me either way. I've said my piece, I wish the issues were brought up the the people involved instead of being escalated to the top. But, Brad is fair, and looked for input, when as a mod, he can just shut NICP down. It's not his style to do so. I'll see you (timing wise on your end) around Christmas, lady!

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Post subject: Re: The Wait Is Finally Over!
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:10 pm
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Hogwash!!!!!

Don't you leave Ox. Just because some people like to whine, don't let that make you leave. Notice how they have nothing to say.........

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Post subject: Re: The Wait Is Finally Over!
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:26 pm
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super kid wrote:
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: and I still don't know what NICP stand for...... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Hi SK, if you will read the thread you started with the title of "Brad and Oxfan????" then you will see that I explained the acronym. Not retyping all that.

This is just the beginning. Sabre Lane has already deleted his Fender account which poofed all his posts. Oxfan will delete his account and then this thread and all Oxfan posts will vaporize too. Others will follow in stages and some will remain.

The policeman, the featherhead and their friends can finally surf safely in the Fender Forum without fear a clown will say "BOO" or post a photo of a train wreck once a thread has fully served it's purpose and needs to be put out of it's misery.


Just look at how happy it makes them!
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Post subject: Re: The Wait Is Finally Over!
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:30 pm
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Post subject: Re: The Wait Is Finally Over!
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:00 pm
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I am sorry to see anyone leave when they have done no intentional offense.

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Post subject: Re: The Wait Is Finally Over!
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:40 pm
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zod wrote:
Hogwash!!!!!Notice how they have nothing to say.........


had the same thought zod: -their hush is eloquent silence; i'd be ashamed!

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Post subject: Re: The Wait Is Finally Over!
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:58 pm
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I've covered this in more depth in the other related thread on this topic, but all I really have to state about this one is that oxfan is certainly welcome to return here if he ever wishes to do so. Fact is no one is (or has been) in trouble here nor has anyone been asked to leave. As I discussed in the other related thread on this topic the majority of the concern here has centered not around the individuals in the NICP themselves but rather on some of the posting activities and "peer pressure" for lack of a better phrase.

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Post subject: Re: The Wait Is Finally Over!
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:31 pm
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Slides, we weren't driven out, some of our members chose to leave. ...
I'll see you (timing wise on your end) around Christmas, lady!

Yeah, "driven out" was incorrect phrasing.

And yes, here's hoping Christmas gathering will coalesce. I'm practicing hard!

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