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Post subject: Re: P-Bass with serial No. 4793 (Now with Photos)
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:17 am
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PICTURES ARE TOO BIG, YOU SHOULD REDUCE THEIR SIZE USING A PHOTO EDITOR IN ORDER TO MAKE THEM MORE VIEWABLE!

Only then I can put the IMG tags for you.


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Post subject: Re: P-Bass with serial No. 4793 (Now with Photos)
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:04 pm
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Ok I checked the photos out. The serial for this instrument was on the headstock decal, which someone removed likely when they refinished the neck and body. The body has had some refinishing since the factory stamps were applied as the refinish is over the stamps and they are inspection stamps that would have been applied after finishing was complete. Also the paint stick pattern is wacky in the neck pocket. An obvious refinish and sort of sloppy refinish at that. Likely done in a garage or basement. Lots of over application in the pocket which transferred to the neck and globbed up on the neck.

About all you can do to date this is to check the pickup and pot codes as there is no date code visible on the neck butt. The FRR stamps do appear legit so I believe that you do have a Fender body and Fender neck and both are likely refinished and non-original. J. Serna was a shop worker at Fender Fullerton. You see his stamps often.

This is almost certainly a post 1977/pre 1985 instrument. Here is why I say that. The Fender USA serials were stamped onto the bridge from 1951/1954 or so on Precisions. There is some overlap into 1955 with this. But this is obviously not a pre 1954 since it is a second generation design so there could not possibly be a bridge serial. Then 1955 through 1976 the serial was on the neckplate. (The neckplate here has no serial.) 1977 till today the serial is on a decal on the headstock. As your instrument has no serial at all it was likely on the headstock.

The white pickup covers were used mainly in the early 80's. However they were frequently retrofitted onto some older instruments to try to make them look newer. This retrofitting is especially common to see on 1978/79/80 models. If that is the original pickup it would make this instrument likely to be a 1981/1983. I'd check the pickup bottoms for the pickup code and check the pot codes too.

At any rate it is a refinish. As Stoker pointed out the tuners are way too shiny to suit me too, but I can't say if they are original or not.

The case on the other hand is not a stock Fender USA case made by G&G. If this instrument was imported to the UK as a new instrument I think that it would have gotten a case after it got to the UK. I believe Selmer was the import agent back then and they sourced their own cases importing only the instrument from Fender. This appears to possibly be one from Selmer. They had 3 flip latches instead of two luggage push buttons plus one flip latch as seen on the G&G cases.


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Post subject: Re: P-Bass with serial No. 4793 (Now with Photos)
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:52 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqGVx-u9K4A

Jose Serna was and STILL is a Group leader and machine operator at the(then Fullerton, now Corona, Calif.) fender plant. i came across this by accident


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