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Post subject: Neck help???
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:11 am
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Hi guys, I'm in possession of a rather battered 60's precision bass with what i think is a different neck: the body is from 1965, but the neck I'm having trouble with. It looks like a neck from a Telecaster Bass, but it's stamped from 1962? Is anyone able to help?

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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:53 pm
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There's everything, sorry its not that great :(

And yeah, by battered I mean 'in pieces' :S ha!

The last image vaguely shows a date on the neck (reads 1962)

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Post subject: Re: Neck help???
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:15 am
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Its hard to tell being the bass is so worn in.
Disregaurd this reply,INCOMPLETE :shock:

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Post subject: Re: Neck help???
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:40 am
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The neck and body are definitley worn-in and the headstock is a original design but it dont add up quite rite,the tuners are incorrect in size and shape,if they were replaced the older holes would still be there and it dont seem like there's extra holes made in the headstock.
The body has a looks to be factory routing for a large humbucking type pick-up which was'nt located there on a telecaster,it would be right at the bass of the neck.look at the heel of the neck,thats where some type of I.D. would be located,stamped or written in pencil(prob the latter).
Look at the chrome neckplate,any serials,markings or Fender logo ? which would help to validate the bass,its hard to tell by the pics aside from it being so worn-in,together they make it next to impossible to I.D. from just some pics on the computer,try a music store and a reputable one at that(not some chain store,but if nothing else in your area give them a whirl).
The more pics you post the better we can asist you,see if there's any other markings. GOOD-LUCK :D

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Post subject: Re: Neck help???
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:49 am
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Sabre Lane wrote:
How is it that you identified this as a Fender?
Especially the body?


Uum, info from the people we got it from really :/ , it's been sitting in my dad's loft for 30 years so all the modifications would have been done before then.

The original pickup was changed and the current one's from a Gibson EB0. The serial number (which is L92429) is stamped on the neck-plate which I've been told was always with the body, so that was my inclination that it's a Fender body. The neck I have no idea about :S , but the headstock has been sanded down so if there was a decal there it would have gone when that was done.

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Post subject: Re: Neck help???
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:11 pm
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The serial given is a 1965 serial so that neck plate is possibly a Fender plate made sometime between July 1 1965 and June 30, 1966.

So far as I know, Fender did not DATE MARK necks or anything else using hammer stampings. I've never seen that. Necks got pencil marks till sometime in March of 1962 and after that they got rubber ink stamps. If anyone has information to the contrary I'd be very interested in learning more.

Fender DID however use one-half inch tall hammered alphabetical/numerical stampings when an instrument came back to Fullerton for a refinish or other repair work. Usually when you see these numbers on a body under the pickguard a Fullerton factory refinish is strongly suspected. These stampings were very deep on the body due having to endure the stripping and sanding process, take the refinish application and buffing and still be thoroughly legible. The neck would also be stamped with the same characters but much less deeply. The neck stampings were usually approximately centered between the four screw holes on the neck paddle. Usually on bodies these factory service marks were in the area hidden under the pickguard. The neck and body would be stamped with matching numbers, all other hardware and electronic parts were bagged and labeled with the same number. That way the neck and body and other components could be reunited for reassembly after the refinishing or other repair process. This didn't go on an awful lot but now and then one turns up.

If the numerical stamping is on the paddle approximately centered between the four screw holes, then it is entirely possibly that this neck went back to Fullerton at some point. It is possible that you may have a Telecaster Bass neck. it looks too new to be pre 1957. The dots and skunk stripe look about right for a Telecaster neck. BC Bassman is an expert on Tele Basses and probably can add something further about whether or not it looks like a Tele neck to him. I think it is odd that there is no date marking on the very heel of the neck as they were ink stamping everything then.

Problems with this body. It would not have come with this neck. On your example the body does not appear to have any original pickguard screw holes which is troubling. It is not a modified Telecaster Bass body as it isn't a string through body and the control routing is different. As previously pointed out it has a 5 screw bridge which also makes it a mismatch.

This is a totally bizarre package. If the body is original Fender from 1965 it should have pickguard screw holes, even if the split-P pickup routing was cut out for the Gibson pickup. Why would anyone sand down the headstock? I'm puzzled and would have to look at this thing in person, even then I can not say for sure whether or not I could say any part of it is anything that came from Fender.

You may have a Fender Telecaster Bass neck on a knockoff body of Asian or other origin that had the electronics modified. That is my best guess.

No matter what it is, it is unique and funky! Which makes it unique and interesting to look at. The photos are sort of low resolution so if I'm missing the presence of the original pickguard screw holes let me know.


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Post subject: Re: Neck help???
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:00 am
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Cheers for that :)

About the pickguard screw holes, they are there but were filled in, they just don't show up in the pics :S , there are also filled in holes for the finger rest as well

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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:05 am
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I agree with everything Brother Dave said about this bass.

We really need some higher resolution pictures to help solve this mystery.

I would like to do some conjecturing about what likely happened to this bass.

Lets assume that the body is that of a 1965 Precision bass that was stripped and routed for an EB-O pickup. This happened all of the time in the sixties.

Lets also assume that the neck is that of an even older Original style Precision bass and it was stripped and sanded because it would have been considered old and ugly back then.
Stripping an old P- bass neck would remove all of the identifying marks.

Put it in storage for 40 years and that makes for a good mystery bass.
I hope that you can restore it to be a good bass.


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Post subject: Re: Neck help???
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:31 am
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AND, What they said,I can tell in person whats what but these guys here know their $@!& like nobodies buisness,if they cant help you because of poor pics try a dependable music store,its not all that hard to figure what you have,my best guess is an older Fender like copy with possibly some real parts mixed in,its worth doing some research,even copies are now worth as much as some of the guitars they are imitating.
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:33 am
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Cheers guys, thanks for the help :)

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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:17 pm
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I would remove the neck and check for marks in the neck pocket and under the pickups.
Also what are the numerical stampings on the pots? That will tell us if the electronics dating jives with the neck plate.


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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:04 pm
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The only markings I see on the pots are the numbers "971 1" below the resistance rating which is "M 250 k ohms B" . They don't look like the pots that Fender used at the time though :S

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Post subject: Re: Neck help???
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:56 am
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You are correct. Those are not Fender OEM pots. I don't know what they are. Probably off shore origin.


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