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Post subject: Re: Calling all Fender experts!
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:44 pm
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You sure it's not FSR? That signifies a special limited run. Can't say I've heard of FPS before...

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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:34 pm
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I have no clue what FPS stands for, but I know that FDS is Feminine Deodorant Spray, and UPS stands for United Parcel Service.

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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:41 pm
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You whack job you Mike! :lol:

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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:06 am
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Sabre Lane wrote:
PowerJazzBass: Have a look at the photo...To the best of my knowledge (and I could be mistaken) I'm probably not whacked. :)


Nope, not you Sabre Lane, Zod = Mike, sorry :mrgreen:

I still don't know the answer tho...wonder if our resident professor knows what it is...Paging Dr brotherdave, paging doctor brotherdave...

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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:59 am
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ENE = Enero = January

Unfortunately I cannot answer the FPS quandry.

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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:25 pm
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could it be something as obvious as Fender Precision Series?


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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:45 pm
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What about Fender Precision Series?


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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:32 am
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This is a newer stamping and it is present on MIM guitars too so the "P" doesn't stand for Precision.

I'm guessing here, but perhaps: F=Finish or Fender, P=Polyester and S=Spray or Surface.

However as these are in the Ensenada plant I would think it would be an abbrevation for a Spanish phrase, not an English one. Notice that the month is abbreviated in Spanish.

Perhaps it is a quality control stamp and those are the intials of the worker, such as Fernando Paco Sanchez, who gave it his okie dokie as good to go.

I'd be interested to know too as these are on about every Fender MIM body. If you find out from consumer relations, please share. Thanks


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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:09 am
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Okay this is a wild guess-- maybe they are going to make FPS in Mexico-- A line of "Fender Pawn Shop" basses. It's crazy I know. I could stand to see some Pawn Shop basses. One could have an "F" hole like the 72 guitar in the series. You could have a proto body they decided not to use. Okay my theory is a little "out there". I admit it. Pawn Shop basses would be cool though.


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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:52 pm
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FPS means fragmented particle spectrum, it's a description of the lighting used when the guitar was built. It means that the day was overcast and the humidity was high.

At least that's what the voices told me. :twisted:


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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:42 pm
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Sabre Lane wrote:

Maybe Rez had a point in advising you to take your meds! :lol:


No one listens till it's too late ;)

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Post subject: Re: Calling all Fender experts!
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:14 am
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Sabre Lane wrote:
I've read that the MIMs aren't left to dry long enough before the finish is applied which would lock the moisture in....
(Do I believe that? Dunno.. Maybe not.)


Sabre Lane wrote:
...I've read that the MIMs aren't left to dry long enough before the finish is applied which would lock the moisture in....
(Do I believe that? Dunno.. Maybe not.....


Actually that isn't, or at least was not previously, valid information. Now we are getting mystery wood from Ensenada as they stopped specifying for the 2010/2011 model year exactly what the body wood actually is. I've heard they are using basswood and I've also heard agathis. I can't say because it isn't specified. Could be both for all I know.

Prior to the 2010/2011 model year which began July 1, 2010 here is the way it went. Shipment of body and neck blanks arrived in Corona. The wood was left stacked for a period to dry. Then it is sorted based on quality judging grain, number of pieces in the blank, color, weight and subjective beauty. Best blanks are designated for Custom Shop. Second best for USA production in various finishes. Third best for Highway Ones. The rest went to Ensenada for MIM production which meant it had to be loaded, trucked and unloaded at Ensenada before it went into production, so the alder going to Ensenada actually would have had a tad more drying time before production due transport time.

Now instead Ensenada gets their own mystery wood blanks. This means the rest of the Corona alder body blanks not good enough for Highway One production still have to go somewhere, which largely explains why we now have American Specials. It is a win-win situation for Fender.

With this change Fender makes more money all the way around. Everyone has a conniption fit when Fender raises prices, so I suspect they were initially looking to improve their profit margin on their lower priced instruments without raising prices. Cheaper wood blanks for the MIM bodies means higher profits. Plus they are getting way more money for the American Specials made with the same Alder body blanks that used to get trucked to Ensenada. In business terms this is a WIN-WIN.

I have nothing against basswood or agathis as tonewoods. I currently have ash, alder, basswood and agathis bodied basses. I liked all of them enough to keep them. I'd rather have an instrument made with a first rate basswood or agathis body blank than a Corona rejected alder body blank.


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Post subject: Re: Calling all Fender experts!
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:28 pm
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I like my ash bodied 51 RI P-Bass a lot, but it seems way heavier than my ash bodied Telecaster Bass was. Perhaps the weight difference is the thick finish on the 51 RI. I also have kept an ash winged Ibanez SRX700 neck-through for about four years now. Those are two keepers for me. Ash, basswood & alder seem to all work for me and one is about as good as the other. Ash may be a little snappier, meaning more percussive with less low end resonance. I get a real low end vibration I can feel within the body on one cheap basswood bodied bass I've kept for 6 years and I really like that resonance. When it comes to tonewoods there are variations from blank to blank so you have to be a bit picky and comparison shop.

You can say one tone wood has this character or that character, but there are differences between blanks made of the same type wood by the same supplier that arrive in the same shipment that can make a finished instrument more or less resonant. Just one major factor is the number of pieces glued together in the blank. In general the fewer pieces the better.


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Post subject: Re: Calling all Fender experts!
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:28 am
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I'm really curious as to what my Jazz is now. It was made in January of 2010, substantially heavier than my ash Precision but lighter than my maple-bodied VM Jazz.


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Post subject: Re: Calling all Fender experts!
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:34 pm
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well then somebody like me comes along and says that they have a cheapo 200 dollar bass made from lord knows what that just sounds great like a hammer from on high. I puzzles me. I firmly believe that there is a "roll the dice" factor. I also believe a person can convince themselves that since they spent so much money on the perfect bass with all the exotic wood and parts that they think it's the killer sounding axe- even though it's not killer. I also think one mans medicine is anothers poison. So what IS IT that I'm saying?
I'm cornfused.


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