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Post subject: U.S. Vintage 57 P-bass
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:07 pm
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Hey everyone,

(this is my first post here, so sorry if this has already been brought up somewhere)

For a long time, I have been saving up for an American P-bass with a sunburst finish, maple fretboard, and a tortoise shell pickguard. When I had enough money saved up for the standard, they were, and still are out of stock, both at my local music store and Musiciansfriend. Because of this, I was able to put away another $400 for an American Vintage 57 P. I just had a few questions for you guys before I seal the deal.

1. I don't like the gold pickguard on the 57', and would like to replace it with a tortoise shell for a 62' p-bass. I know that the 57' has 10 holes and the 62' has 13, so I would have to drill the holes myself. What I want to know is will the 62' pickguard fit on the 57' body without anything major not lining up (like the holes for volume/tone knobs, pickups, etc)?

2. One of my favorite things about the p-bass is the sustain. Even though the 57' doesn't have a body-through bridge, does it have less sustain than models with one? Keep in mind, the only models without a body-through bridge that I played were the Mexican models.

Thanks a lot for your help, and I look forward to being a member here.

Peace and good vibes,
Colin


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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:03 pm
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Well if you are really wanting an American P-Bass with a tort guard and maple neck, and a string through bridge, look at the new American Standards which were announced yesterday.

In regards to the 57 RI:

1) Check Pickguardian.com and mention to them you need a 10 hole tort guard. They will custom build one for you.

2) I personally believe that the sustain is nearly the same and you probably won't hear the difference. I have 2 American P-Basses (one strung through and one top loaded) and an MIJ reissue 62 P-Bass... and they all sustain more or less equally.

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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:15 am
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I say just wait for the New American Standard. The sunburst models now come with a shell pickguard and you can get it with maple or rosewood. Not to mention they come with a higher mass bridge (top load or string thru) so it will sustain better. Plus I hear the finish is supposed to be better than the previous American Series. Not to mention you'll save yourself $300 from the '57 model plus $40 or $50 for a pickguard. Musicians Friend will have the Sunburst with Shell Pickguard and Maple fretboard available Feb. 14. If you ask me thats not that long to wait for such a great instrument (I'm waiting for mine).


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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:58 am
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I have two friends who both have American-made standard strats. One of them plays and sounds great, the other one totally sucks in every way. If I'm going to spend a good sum of money on an American made p-bass, I'm very paranoid that I'll get a dud. So I guess what I'm asking is which series is least likely to give me a dud, the new American Standard or American Vintage?


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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:04 am
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Well an AVS 57' P bass will likely not be a dud. However, it won't sound or play like a modern P bass either.


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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:17 pm
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OK, I'm about to order it. I just had one more question for you guys before I did.

How comfortable is the neck on the '57 compared to the neck of the standard (which I am used to), and do you think it will be an easy or hard transition? If it helps, I play on the first 5 frets a lot, and do a lot of walking bass lines with the major and minor scales, both up and down.


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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:55 am
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First off, I hate modern necks and the modern fretboard radius. If you do alot of walking lines, then the 57 is about as good as it gets. It is generally a wide neck though. Wider then the modern p neck, and it doesn't have the rolled edges...you need to play the thing and roll your own. My advice, order the thing...slap a set of Fender 9050ML's on it and play it everyday...never change the strings...as a matter of fact..never clean them either.


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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:57 pm
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TheKingofPain wrote:
First off, I hate modern necks and the modern fretboard radius. If you do alot of walking lines, then the 57 is about as good as it gets. It is generally a wide neck though. Wider then the modern p neck, and it doesn't have the rolled edges...you need to play the thing and roll your own. My advice, order the thing...slap a set of Fender 9050ML's on it and play it everyday...never change the strings...as a matter of fact..never clean them either.


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Not to thread jack, I've been cleaning mine, is there something I'm missing about these flatwound that it shouldn't be cleaned?

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:13 pm
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"The dirt keeps the funk in." :wink:

Trust me when I say that the older and grimmier they get the better and more "old school" they sound. A 57' P bass with a set of grimmy old Fender flats is one of the greatest sounds you'll ever hear. The raised A poles and the bit hotter wind really make the mids aggressive...it's pretty awesome. Like stepping back in time.



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TheKingofPain wrote:
"The dirt keeps the funk in." :wink:

Trust me when I say that the older and grimmier they get the better and more "old school" they sound. A 57' P bass with a set of grimmy old Fender flats is one of the greatest sounds you'll ever hear. The raised A poles and the bit hotter wind really make the mids aggressive...it's pretty awesome. Like stepping back in time.



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Thanks a bunch dude!

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