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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:11 pm
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I have looked at you tube videos which showed factory shots of Ensanada and the American Facility
and guess what... The American plant seems to be staffed by a majority of Mexican looking workers
what you have to remember was that Leo used a lot of Mexican workers including women that used to
hand wind the pickups, where the guitar is made is no indication of quality, every manufacturing
plant in tha world has their friday afternoon models be it autos or whatever else , I have a 94
American standard Strat that frankly is a dog and a 2002 Mexican P which sounds beautifull i also
had a genuine july 64 jazz bass that was pretty ordinary ( i know it was a 64 because i bought it
in 68 !) we did not know then we were using future priceless relics, i suppose its hanging up in
a glass case somewhere belonging to a "Collector"... i am digressing a bit so to sum it all up
if you are a newbie to guitars forget it all the hype about Made in the US of A try em all and
whatever you think plays and sounds good get that one...after all is a Mercedes Benz from Germany
better than one Made in the US ? ... Probably is...Peter


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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:13 pm
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I have looked at you tube videos which showed factory shots of Ensanada and the American Facility
and guess what... The American plant seems to be staffed by a majority of Mexican looking workers
what you have to remember was that Leo used a lot of Mexican workers including women that used to
hand wind the pickups, where the guitar is made is no indication of quality, every manufacturing
plant in tha world has their friday afternoon models be it autos or whatever else , I have a 94
American standard Strat that frankly is a dog and a 2002 Mexican P which sounds beautifull i also
had a genuine july 64 jazz bass that was pretty ordinary ( i know it was a 64 because i bought it
in 68 !) we did not know then we were using future priceless relics, i suppose its hanging up in
a glass case somewhere belonging to a "Collector"... i am digressing a bit so to sum it all up
if you are a newbie to guitars forget it all the hype about Made in the US of A try em all and
whatever you think plays and sounds good get that one...after all is a Mercedes Benz from Germany
better than one Made in the US ? ... Probably is...Peter


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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:15 pm
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I have looked at you tube videos which showed factory shots of Ensanada and the American Facility
and guess what... The American plant seems to be staffed by a majority of Mexican looking workers
what you have to remember was that Leo used a lot of Mexican workers including women that used to
hand wind the pickups, where the guitar is made is no indication of quality, every manufacturing
plant in tha world has their friday afternoon models be it autos or whatever else , I have a 94
American standard Strat that frankly is a dog and a 2002 Mexican P which sounds beautifull i also
had a genuine july 64 jazz bass that was pretty ordinary ( i know it was a 64 because i bought it
in 68 !) we did not know then we were using future priceless relics, i suppose its hanging up in
a glass case somewhere belonging to a "Collector"... i am digressing a bit so to sum it all up
if you are a newbie to guitars forget it all the hype about Made in the US of A try em all and
whatever you think plays and sounds good get that one...after all is a Mercedes Benz from Germany
better than one Made in the US ? ... Probably is...Peter


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Post subject: Re: Not sure if you want a MIM P Bass??
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:29 pm
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I have a 2000 MIM Precision Special Deluxe. Put a Badass II bridge on it. Plays very nicely!
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Post subject: Re: Not sure if you want a MIM P Bass??
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:43 pm
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i'm more than happy with my MIM basses..... of course, being Canadian i'm not one of those "it must be MIA" snobs.... if it plays good and sounds good... it's good!

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Post subject: Re: Not sure if you want a MIM P Bass??
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:23 pm
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My Road Worn P is one of the nicest basses I have ever played at any price (in spite of the reliced finish). Lightweight body, landing strip straight neck, tons-o-mojo.


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Post subject: Re: Not sure if you want a MIM P Bass??
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:44 am
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Standard Fenders - made in Mexico by Mexicans.
American Standard Fenders - made in America by Mexicans.
Why wouldn't I consider a MIM? For all intents and purposes, they'e the same as MIA's.

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Post subject: Re: Not sure if you want a MIM P Bass??
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:52 pm
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I don't take my near mint 1966 Olympic White P Bass out but I have a MIM in white that plays nice sounds good & is a deal for the $$$. No complaints. The only thing is it has to have a rosewood board. After playing nitro maple boards the new poly finished boards feel like plastic! Maybe they'd feel OK if they got beat.


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Post subject: Re: Not sure if you want a MIM P Bass??
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:42 pm
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kamakhoazi is right on about it not being a one sound bass. i love my 2005 MIM precision because all you have to do to get different sounds is mess around with playing style. no effects needed. you want a treble sound play slap, if you want a clean sound play finger, and if you want a dirty sound play with a pick. its amazing.

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Post subject: Re: Not sure if you want a MIM P Bass??
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:40 am
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I bought my first bass last year and it was a MIM P bass that was brand new in the store but actually was made in 2003. I took the round wounds off it and put on flats, other than that the only other change I have made was to put strap locks on it. I absolutely love this guitar, it sounds like the classic sixties sound I like to play the most. I have been investigating the differences between it and an American made one just in case I get the notion I should really have an Amercian made one. To date the differences seem to be a little finer tooth ratio on the tuning machines(may help tuning but won't change sound much) and the feed through the body string arrangement. Whether that feature makes it worth twice the price or not is yet to be determined, maybe someone else can comment. I have purchased three other basses over the last year, a used MIM active J bass with BadAssII bridge and SD pickups. It has a great tone and plays fantastic. I also purchased a Epiphone Les Paul four string and a Washburn hollow body. Both are much cheaper in design, fabrication and quality of parts, in fact the Epi is up for sale. I like the Washburn except for its cheap components. I find I go back to the origianal P the majority of the time and absolutely love the way it hangs on me and the way it feels to play it. I do notice a line in the wood on the body that shows through the paint job when looking at it in a certain angle, maybe thats the big difference is a little more attention to the asthetics.

If someone knows of a reason to get an American made one they will need to enlighten me as to what I am missing. A guitar store salesman told me if I play more than three hours a day I would notice the differences, well I do play more than three hours a day on some occasions and the P just feels better and better to me. So if there is a major difference I have not been able to find it and would recommend the MIM Fender basses to anyone wanting a great guitar at an affordabel price.


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Post subject: Re: Not sure if you want a MIM P Bass??
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:52 pm
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I got my MIM Precision bass last year and its a brilliant bass, Its my first precision Bass and I love it! :)


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Post subject: Re: Not sure if you want a MIM P Bass??
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:16 am
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fpbass wrote:
Defusion27 wrote:
I got my MIM Precision bass last year and its a brilliant bass, Its my first precision Bass and I love it! :)

Welcome to the Fender world. I'm glad you like your MIM P Bass. I really have compared mine one on one with an Am. Std., I'm glad I went with the MIM.


Thanks, and in which ways is the MIM better than the MIA?


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Post subject: Re: Not sure if you want a MIM P Bass??
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:49 pm
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having played my MIM Deluxe Active P a fair bit lately and then comparing it to my Ric or GL Jazz or a friends AM Standard P, my only beef is feeling the fret ends when sliding up and down the neck... i'm sure they could be filed down or something, but i do appreciate the extra detail and effort that goes into binding the neck on those more "expensive" models.... is it worth paying 3-4 times more for? no, not to me....

but there are some differences between MIM and the MIA or CIJ models.... it's up to you to decide if they justify the difference in price....

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Post subject: Re: Not sure if you want a MIM P Bass??
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:25 pm
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I love the playability, tone, and feel of the Road Worn mexicans. As good, maybe better than my 08 Am Stdrd Pbass. The classic 50's P rocks too. I'm considering the classic 60's J bass (as my one and only J bass) if it's as good as the 50's P, over the highway one J.


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Post subject: Re: Not sure if you want a MIM P Bass??
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:02 am
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kgerry wrote:
having played my MIM Deluxe Active P a fair bit lately and then comparing it to my Ric or GL Jazz or a friends AM Standard P, my only beef is feeling the fret ends when sliding up and down the neck... i'm sure they could be filed down or something, but i do appreciate the extra detail and effort that goes into binding the neck on those more "expensive" models.... is it worth paying 3-4 times more for? no, not to me....

but there are some differences between MIM and the MIA or CIJ models.... it's up to you to decide if they justify the difference in price....

Sharp fret ends are very common, especially on mass produced instruments like Fenders, even on the more expensive models. It has to do with shrinkage and expension of the neck wood. The wood shrinks becasue of temperature and humidity, the metal frets will not. As you surmise, easily fixed by filing them down. That's something I would leave to a tech, only because I have no personal experience doing that, and I would have more confidence in someone who has probably done it hundred of times due to it being so common. One good thing, once it is fixed it will stay fixed, it's not something that will need to be redone.

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