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Post subject: Oddball 82/83 Precision
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:52 pm
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Well, I finally got myself one of the early reissue basses, and bought it as a bit of a project. However, It's turned out pretty interesting and I could use some help figuring it out. It's an 82 body with an 83 neck in candy apple red that some genius painted flat black. Is had a Kahler tremelo bridge put in that i planned on just pulling out and filling the hole to put a proper bridge on. However, upon closer inspection there is base coat in the routing for the bridge. I would hate to change a factory mod, regardless of how ludicrous it is (the bridge has to weigh over a pound). Anybody heard of something like this? Also, if it is something of particular interest, I'd like to find out so I can start being a little more careful with my black paint removal. Oh, and that is a metal block in the bridge cavity that I'm guessing was installed to brace that massive tremelo setup. Thanks for any help. I'll post some pictures when I figure out how to.


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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:36 am
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Sorry, but I do not not think that bridge routing is factory because it is frankly very obviously free-handed and they just didn't do things that way.


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Hi, Probably this body has been refinished at least twice since it left the factory. That is the only thing I can think of that would explain the paint in the tremolo routing. When it was routed it was painted red. Then later someone else did the second refinish in black. I'm fairly certain Candy Apple Red was discontinued June 30, 1973 by the way.

Filling the tremolo routing is going to be a real problem. Both Kahler and Hipshot have made tremolo bass bridges. Might have had one of those.
Here are some links to check and compare the routing to yours. Then get the one that fits and put it in. The first link is for the Kahler, second for Hipshot.
http://www.wammiworld.com/bass%20installation.html
http://www.hipshotproducts.com/files/all/basstremrout4.pdf


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well, you're wrong about the finish. candy apple red was a custom finish offered on the reissues which is one of the things that made me not swap the body out immediately.

http://www.joetheguitarman.com/1982%20C ... 20bass.htm

and i think you didn't actually read the original post. i already said that it came with a kahler bridge in it and it's terrible. thanks for the help brotherdave. i hate to seem ungrateful, but merely reiterating the obvious things that piqued my curiosity in the first place is not actually doing anything. it was worth a shot. and i'm gonna have to declare this one a never mind. guess i'll have to get off my butt and head over to the guitar shop for advice.


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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:35 am
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Geez, what a dick.


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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:50 am
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maybe. but getting useless advice is frustrating for anybody. say for instance, zod, that you asked one of your friends on advice on how to be less of a smarmy jerkoff who makes unwarranted remarks about people. but instead of giving you advice, he just tells you that he noticed that you're a smarmy jerkoff. i'll bet that'd be frustrating. i'm just the type of person who'll take no advice over somebody talking for the sake of it. unfortunately, i don't think that belief works in any sort of free advice forum.


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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:53 am
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zod wrote:
Geez, what a dick.

Well he's right. He did say Kahler in the original post. However by the time he later posted the link to the photos without the bridge installed I had forgotten he said Kahler and was going only by the photos which clearly show a free handed routing job that can not possibly be factory work. Therefore any paint in the freehand bridge routing was put there after the freehand routing which means it was painted at least there after the routing and before the tremolo bridge was installed to make it look better. That is the only possible explanation for the paint in the tremolo routing. Since C.A.R. is a two color process the whole body would have to be painted or you'd have gold overspray on top of the red elsewhere.

He's also right about the red being done at Fullerton but didn't ever say this was Fullerton series.

A serial would have been helpful to determine origin.

He would be best off putting the Kahler tremolo bridge back in because a repair to fill the routing so that he can install a proper stock Fender bridge will not be stable enough to support a Fender stock bridge permanently. It will work for a while, but sooner or later I would expect it to crack around the repair and eventually to start working upwards in the direction of the tension. There just is too much tension on the bridge. So I'd put the tremolo bridge back in and live with it.


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thank you dave. sorry i didn't clarify the fullerton specific. i thought that saying it was an 82 reissue body would imply the same thing. but to be honest, i never payed a lot of attention to the fullerton reissue basses until i played a friend's a year or so ago and nearly crapped at how great the neck finish felt and the awesome craftsmanship. i'll probably end up pawning off the body with the bridge in it once i get the rest of the black off of it. i've got an early 70's body laying around for now. there's gotta be some weirdo out there who'd love to have a beautiful, yet defiled fullerton body. what a bummer. i always thought i had found the perfect bass when i got a genuinely well built 76 after owning a metric shitload of precisions, but everything about this bass is nicer. i would have even settled for an ugly unfinished spot from the bridge fill. cause man, this is, well was, a seriously well crafted instrument. best $400 i've spent in a while. thanks again for the help.

and zod,
i read some of your posts, and i do like your advice on techniques you use when photographing your basses. it was some really good input after that extremely extensive post by a qualified photographer that the thread started with. a tripod? no way! i can tell you're definitely not one of those people who posts on forums just to see his own typing. not at all.

bass photography... heh.


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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:33 pm
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All of my friends think I'm an $@!&#*% anyway. :lol:

But regardless, IMO what you had posted was jerkoff-ish. I should have said nothing at all because I have nothing to contribute to this thread.
I was just attempting to aid Dave in some way. *fail*

It's all good, No hard feelings.


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