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Post subject: Anyone played the new American Deluxe ?
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:29 am
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Hi All


I have a American Std P Bass on order but since the new deluxe has come out I think I am going to change to it.

Good move for the extra money ???

Cant see it in the shop as the new ones are not in the country where i live yet.

But i need to change the order now

any comments really appreciated


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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:00 pm
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The new Deluxe would probably be worth the extra money if you need a hugely versatile instrument to cover a lot of different sounds. It is not a one trick pony! It has both active and passive tone circuitry.


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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:53 am
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brotherdave is right as always - it depends what you want to do with your bass. I have yet to try one of the new Deluxe P's but have the previous model with the humbucker rather than Jazz pickup.

I play in soul covers band although we do stray into funk and Van Morrison where the bridge pickup can be useful. It is easy to pan across to the humbucker and then add a bit more bass to taste with the active control - no need to fiddle with the amp. It is a great instrument with a superb neck. A/B comparison suggests it is just a bit warmer than a passive P but nothing to worry about on a gig.

And yet --- there is something very appealing about the "one-trick-pony" which is why I have just bought an '09 American Standard Precision. It sounds just right for 90% of what we play and some days I value that no-nonsense simplicity

If I really had to choose just one it would be the new Deluxe as it covers so many musical styles. The Jazz pickup is less obtrusive than the humbucker and the passive option could be gig saver, not that I have ever had any problems with batteries in the Deluxe; they just seem to last forever.

That's my opinion. Both versions are great basses. It comes down to your personal needs and preferences.


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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:57 am
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A good P-J bass (like the new American DLX Precision) is a very versatile instrument if set up properly.

I'm glad I kept my 85 Fender Jazz Bass Special, which has P-J pickups, J neck and P body (passive, but sounds great IMO).


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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:00 pm
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dberriff wrote:
I play in soul covers band although we do stray into funk and Van Morrison where the bridge pickup can be useful....And yet --- there is something very appealing about the "one-trick-pony" which is why I have just bought an '09 American Standard Precision. It sounds just right for 90% of what we play and some days I value that no-nonsense simplicity

If I really had to choose just one it would be the new Deluxe as it covers so many musical styles....Both versions are great basses. It comes down to your personal needs and preferences.


Speaking of one-trick ponies. I favor the first-generation P-Bass design which is even more of one-trick-pony. Both are so simple with only two controls. I roll off the volume a tad and just crack the tone from full bass. That is how a first generation P-Bass works best for me. On second generation basses I turn the tone to about mid way up and still back the volume off a smidgen.

My second favorite setup is the one Bill Lawrence came up with for his matched passive WILDE P/J set. That setup is one MASTER volume, one blend control between the two pickups and one master TONE. It requires two tone caps but it is a brilliant design. Bill Lawrence is a tone genius and my hat is off to Wilde Bill! If there is an unsung hero of electric guitar and bass, it is Bill Lawrence.

Lots of people look down on cover bands. But frankly a cover of a classic someone has heard 2000 times is the ABSOLUTE hardest thing to do....to recreate the most memorable songs and keep them FRESH.


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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:34 pm
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Thanks brotherdave. I'm getting a bit off topic here but...

We are a mixed bunch of college trained musicians and enthusiastic semi-pros like myself, none of us in the first flush of youth, ahem. We know our limitations, know that we can get the local bar cliental up and dancing, and have never disappointed at a wedding or function gig yet - in other words we have a ball and so do most of our audience, including the youngsters. So we are quite happy to admit to being a covers band.

The Precision is just right for our work, and I have come back to the P after using a G&L SB-2 for a while (great bass but it just doesn't have the same clarity as a Precision).

I regret selling my MIJ '51 P-bass but that is another story.


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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:16 pm
Go with the Deluxe.


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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:09 am
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glbass wrote:
Go with the Deluxe.


DITTO. I like them a lot. I've played two different copies. I'm very glad they are different than say three years ago.

A P-BASS should be SIMPLE. It should be SOLID. ROCK SOLID. If it feels good to you, and you don't think you can break it into with your bare hands....you are getting somewhere.


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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:11 pm
Hi dberriff; I went just the opposite way. The G&L SB-2 I went with honestly had the sounds over both my J & P Basses. Every bass sounds different. My SB-2 seems to really have it. It was run through an Ampeg, Marshall, and the Mesa/Boogie.


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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:17 am
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glbass wrote:
Hi dberriff; I went just the opposite way. The G&L SB-2 I went with honestly had the sounds over both my J & P Basses. Every bass sounds different. My SB-2 seems to really have it. It was run through an Ampeg, Marshall, and the Mesa/Boogie.


I still have my SB-2; it is a good one and is a keeper. The Precision is a good bass too, but different. I feel fortunate to be able to hang on to both.


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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:39 am
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I liked the deluxe when it has the RB bridge pup, those are some mighty fine pups!

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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:14 pm
Hey dberriff; I know what you mean. For me the my SB-2 is a P Bass with an attitude.


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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:12 pm
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With the new American Deluxe, you lose the 22nd fret of the older models.

I wonder for which reason Fender removed the 22nd fret from the "new" Deluxe basses.


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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:32 am
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chromeface wrote:
With the new American Deluxe, you lose the 22nd fret of the older models.

I wonder for which reason Fender removed the 22nd fret from the "new" Deluxe basses.


It's a Precision! - What are you doing up that end of the fretboard anyway? [joke]

My theory, for what it is worth. I found switching between a standard and the previous deluxe wasn't instant because of the slightly different relationship between neck and marginally downsized body. Dark stage, a few distractions, I found I really had to think about hitting the right fret at the start of song if using the Deluxe. This could of course have been the result of my own shortcomings.

I don't want to exaggerate the effect but since the Precision form-factor is known, loved and proven in countless performances, why mess with it?


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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:08 pm
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For me, a new American Deluxe would be an older downsized 22-fret Deluxe with the current specs (active/passive toggle, passive tone, HMV, compound neck radius, Fender/Hipshot tuners, black or white MOP dots, 70s decal and strong arm bar) and a N3 Jazz Bass pickup replacing the gigantic Roscoe Beck humbucker.

Not sure if it's possible to upgrade an older Deluxe with the 2010 specs.


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