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You gotta love mom and pop shops. I have had this bass for over 6 months and they are still gonna give me the free set up. The big box store were I live wouldn't give me the time of day one day after the same kind of purchase.


+1 for Mom and Pop shops. We have store here that has a small selection but amazing service.

Good point while this is a string discussion to bring up set ups. All this swapping strings around can be pretty annoying setup wise. So when you find a string/bass combo you like, then stick with it. At string change time, replace strings ONE AT A TIME using the exact same set and you'll likely need no adjustments other than maybe a minor truss rod tweak due seasonal changes.


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Yes once you decide on a set of strings stick with it. At least on the bass in question.


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Brother Dave, What guage of the GHS Precision flats are you so happy with? I looked them up and saw that they came in a couple of different guages, and I am interested in giving tham a try on a Fender '62 re-issue P bass. Thought I would give them a go before trying anything else.
Thank you for all of you advise, and willingness to share it.


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Brother Dave, What guage of the GHS Precision flats are you so happy with? I looked them up and saw that they came in a couple of different guages, and I am interested in giving tham a try on a Fender '62 re-issue P bass. Thought I would give them a go before trying anything else.
Thank you for all of you advise, and willingness to share it.


Right now I am using two different sets of GHS PRECISION FLATS.
First I tried the 3025 which is LIGHT with .045"/.060"/.075"/.095" gauge strings. I have this set on a passive P/J now. It really sounds more modern to me that the other GHS PRECISION set I use which is all the way at the other extreme.

Second I tried the GHS 3050 REGULAR Precision Flats. I needed big fat strings for my '51 Precision Reissue because of an intonation issue I was having. So I got the biggest ones I could get which are in the 3050 REGULAR set. These are .055"/.070"/.090"/.105" strings. These sound VERY close to Labella's Jamerson set. PERFECT for old school stuff.

I knew I needed to put flats on the 51 Reissue because of the tiny vintage frets on it. So I bought the GHS Precision 3025's locally. When they would not intonate correctly with a Fender USA Deluxe 4 saddle bridge (which has a fairly short saddle travel adjustment range, next I tried the GHS 3050 REGULARS which were the largest flats I could find other than the Labella set. Since I'd have to order the Labella Jamerson set I decided to try the biggest GHS Precisions I could find. With those GHS REGULARS it was much closer but still would not intonate the D & G string 100%. Next I bought a Leo Quan BAIII bridge (no longer in production) and the much longer saddle travel it afforded finally got it dead on perfect.

By comparison the Labella Jamerson's are .052"/.073"/.095"/.110". I used these strings back in the late 60's and early 70's and wanted to try something else this time. I'm glad I did. I really think the extra .003" on the G string of the GHS helped get the intonation dead on. I think they are easier to play, smoother and just as thumpy as the Labellas. They can also be used for body through stringing according to GHS, but I top load them anyway just to be extra safe. The Labella 760M set (the old name for the Jamerson Set) did not like the body through stringing on my Telecaster Bass at all. I abandoned them about 1972 and now Labella clearly labels them "not for body-through stringing." I wish they had done that way back when as it would have saved me a lot of money and embarrassment at gigs when I'd break the Labellas.

I might get a set of the Labellas for the '51 RI someday, but nobody carries them around here. The Labellas sound awesome, but I think I like playing the GHS REGULARS better and they sound close.


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Thanks for the advise Brotherdave.


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It will probebly be a week before my flats are in I gotta be patient LOL. The action on my Precision is higher then on my Jazz and just not fun to play for any length of time hence new strings and a pro setup.


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It will probebly be a week before my flats are in I gotta be patient LOL. The action on my Precision is higher then on my Jazz and just not fun to play for any length of time hence new strings and a pro setup.


A good setup is worth it. Really it is. People who do them all the time get a knack for it. I can follow the directions, but sometimes you just have to have a feel for it which you don't get just doing it once in a while.

There was this one guy at the local Fender dealer (Music Mart, Albemarle NC) who did the most amazing setups. He played guitar. About 3 or 4 years ago he moved to Nashville. His name is Tim Galloway. I can't believe a guy who used to setup my basses hit it so big. So, Kellie Pickler (who used to bring me Foot Long Cheese Coneys and Cherry Limeades at the Albemarle Sonic) isn't the only musician of note to come from Albemarle! One night I was watching David Letterman and there was Tim Galloway playing away with some country band. Tim is staying very busy in Nashville. I had no idea he was such a good player, all I knew was he fixed my basses. Just goes to show you.


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gnosticbass wrote:
It will probebly be a week before my flats are in I gotta be patient LOL. The action on my Precision is higher then on my Jazz and just not fun to play for any length of time hence new strings and a pro setup.


A good setup is worth it. Really it is. People who do them all the time get a knack for it. I can follow the directions, but sometimes you just have to have a feel it which you don't get just doing it once in a while.

There was this one guy at the local Fender dealer (Music Mart, Albemarle NC) who did the most amazing setups. He played guitar. About 3 or 4 years ago he moved to Nashville. His name is Tim Galloway. I can't believe a guy who used to setup my basses hit it so big. So, Kellie Pickler (who used to bring me Foot Long Cheese Coneys and Cherry Limeades at the Albemarle Sonic) isn't the only musician of note to come from Albemarle! One night I was watching David Letterman and there was Tim Galloway playing away with some country band. Tim is staying very busy in Nashville. I had no idea he was such a good player, all I knew was he fixed my basses. Just goes to show you.


Thats a cool story. I'm taking guitar lessons after a 22 year hiatus from a 15 year old music prodigy and not embarassed in the least. My teacher plays 6 different instruments, reads music, understands theory like the back of his hand and just plain has got that inborn music gift. He wants a career in music and he's got the talent to do it. Maybe I'll know a celeb someday as well before he got famous.


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ive always liked the feel of flat wounds myself..their smooth and quick. Although i don't use them because of the tone limit you too, i find that round wounds can give you the same tone as the flat wounds with more power if you know how to EQ your instrument accordingly


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I recently had GHS flats on my bass.. and well i noticed a darker tone in the GHS compared to my previous Chromes...


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I'd just like to ask.. is it just me or there are parts in the GHS flats that are kinda rough?

it's hard to notice if i just slide my fingers lightly on my E string..
but then when i pressed down, and feel the strings.. there are some rough parts on the 7th - 9th fret area..

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I'd just like to ask.. is it just me or there are parts in the GHS flats that are kinda rough?

it's hard to notice if i just slide my fingers lightly on my E string..
but then when i pressed down, and feel the strings.. there are some rough parts on the 7th - 9th fret area..


I've used the GHS PRECISION 3025, M3050 and 3050 Regular sets on a variety of basses for about 2 years now. That is the full array of the GHS Precision flats made for 34 and 35 inch scale 4 string basses.

I'm of the opinion they are the smoothest feeling out there across the board. But just to be sure I pulled out 3 basses set up with them. On the 3025 and M3050 sets I have detected no rough spots at all. On the fatter 3050 REGULAR set only the 4th "E" string does have a rougher spot between about halfway between the first fret and the nut where the polishing obviously isn't critical anyway since I never go there. There is only an ever so slight roughness on that same string up the neck about the 11th fret but I never noticed it before you said you were feeling something on yours. I had to use my right pinkie and ring fingers to feel it because of the thick skin on all 6 of my other fingers. It is only in one spot not even a half inch long and so slight that I never noticed it before. It is not worth following up on with GHS for me because it is so minor.

I have not used the GHS Brite Flats or Pressure Wound sets at all and they could be very different from the Precision sets. All I feel is the sensation that I'm fingering pliable metal rods. I just verified that on three different basses currently set up with 3025, M3050 and 3050 Regulars. All around I think the GHS Precisions are a good flatwound string with a long life and are a great value dollar wise that is made in the USA.

So, EyeCandy I can't say what is going on with yours. Could actually be defective. You might want to contact GHS Support via email address marty@ghsstrings.com or call toll free in the USA at 800-388-4447 9 AM till 5 PM Central Time and see if they will do an exchange to get you one that is better. I'm sure they would want to know about your issue as they are very quality conscious and want feedback from users.

I've used about 7 sets of them over the past two years. By and large they feel like solid yet pliable metal rods. Some flats I've used were just awful in the feel department and I've heard of people complaining of picking up metal splinters when doing slides on at least one other brand. I've never felt anything like that using the GHS Precisions. If I did I wouldn't use them.

The GHS Precision are the most bass heavy and percussive strings in the GHS bass string line. The 3025's though do sound more modern to me than either of the 3050's which makes them a more versatile string, but for the most real thump you'll want the 3050's.


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I'm using the 3050's 45-105.. well its hardly noticeable, same as yours brotherdave.. except mine's on a different spot, sometimes when i slide it i feel it, sometimes I don't, anyways I liked the strings both on J and P.. really thumpy.. I noticed the sudden change of tone since I changed from D'Addario Chromes...

looks like I found my set

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eyecandy wrote:
I'm using the 3050's 45-105.. well its hardly noticeable, same as yours brotherdave.. except mine's on a different spot, sometimes when i slide it i feel it, sometimes I don't, anyways I liked the strings both on J and P.. really thumpy.. I noticed the sudden change of tone since I changed from D'Addario Chromes...

looks like I found my set


Those are what GHS calls the M3050's. My M3050's are perfectly smooth from nut to end of fretboard. Only on the 3050 Regulars was I able to find any rough patches at all and only the 4th "E" string. The 3050 Regulars are 55-70-90-105. The "E" string in both sets is exactly the same gauge but the other 3 are heavier. They probably would like to know about it. The worst that could happen is they say "THANKS" and you just might wind up getting an offer to exchange strings.

I've had trouble with other string sets at other companies and they usually want the defective string back to see what happened so they can fix whatever went wrong in the production process. They usually mail replacements right out with a postage paid envelope to return the defective one. Then I imagine someone in engineering and production follow up on it.


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I'm a huge fan of the fender flats and GHS flats. I have yet to try out labella or rotos but I don't really like chromes. One of these days Imma buy like $300 worth of different flats and do a side by side test to see what I like best.

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yeah yo go do that tommy.. good luck with the string quest..

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it's no biggie anyways they sounded fine just a little rougher, i thought i was the only one with that issue..

anyways still I guess i'm fine with them and can't wait to gig with them on july 31

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