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Post subject: Switch from j to p
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:15 pm
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It's about time I get a new bass. My current bass that I've had for 2 years now is the squier effinity jazz bass. Came in one of those value packs with amp and the whole deal. It's black and finger prints show easily but I love it. Haven't played a better bass in my two years. But the input Jack is crackly the whole bass getting old and used and I love the idea of having two basses to choose from.
In my current financial situation re only bass I can afford and really think I'll like is the MIM p bass brown sunburt maple fingerboard. Any way you guys here know it all. Otherthan personal prefrence and all that jazz what's really different to a bass player about a p bass after playing a jazz bass. I want to know what to expect, change in weight, sound feel, just the real noticable differences.
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:10 pm
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P Bass necks are wider than Jazz Basses.. of course the sound and controls, A Jazz bass would have the growl sound.. plus V/V/T control while a P Bass would have a thumpier and boomy sound and P Bass have single pickups and volume and tone control..

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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:29 am
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eyecandy wrote:
P Bass necks are wider than Jazz Basses.. of course the sound and controls, A Jazz bass would have the growl sound.. plus V/V/T control while a P Bass would have a thumpier and boomy sound and P Bass have single pickups and volume and tone control..
what he said.


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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:02 pm
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since you already got a jazz bass.. why not a p-bass for a different feel.. the input jack can be easily replaced in your j bass

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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:26 am
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Thanks, I think the switch will pay off. But about the input Jack, I'm not really someone who takes stuff apart. But could someone quickly explain how you replace the Jack. also how to replace a pickguard?


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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:52 pm
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for the pickguard if its Jazz...
just take the ten screws out, swap pickguards, put the screws back in. All the electrics are on the seperate metal plate and make sure that you're pickguard is specially for that bass, because like if you're putting a 62' tort pickguard on a Squier you might do some sanding or some pickguards won't fit..

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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:12 pm
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Your question about difference has been answered. I'll tackle the jack issue. You'll need a Switchcraft Mono Shallow Shaft Jack, which is Switchcraft Jack #11. They sell for $2 to $5 depending on where you buy it. You'll also need soldering iron, solder, needle nose pliers and possibly a pocket knife. It is really a straightforward swap out.

1. Unscrew and remove the control plate screws.
2. Note which terminals on the jack the black and white wires are connected to. Write it down. There are only two wires. This isn't rocket science.
3. Put a thick towel down OVER as much of the top of the instrument's body as possible and UNDER as much of the control plate as possible to protect the guitar's finish.
4. Apply heat from soldering iron to one terminal connection while using the needle nose pliers to gently pull each wire free of the existing jack.
5. Use needle nose pliers very carefully or a socket wrench to loosen the nut holding the jack on the exterior of the pickguard. Remove the nut and the jack will slip right out. Probably fall right out acutally.
6. Install new jack and tighten up the nut using a socket wrench or very carefully with needle nose pliers so that the jack is oriented roughly the same.
7. Slip the black wire and the white wire back into the correct terminal holes, crimp them just slightly with the needle nose pliers so they don't fall out of the terminal lug holes and then solder both in place.
8. Replace control plate to original position and reinstall screws.

DONE!

If you lack soldering skills visit my DO IT YOURSELF SETUP AND MAINTENANCE page from the Resources Page link in my forum signature below and next to last near the very bottom of that page is a section on SOLDERING. There are several good links there. Just a little practice with some junk wire and you'll get the hang of it. Very good skill to have.


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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:06 pm
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brotherdave wrote:
Your question about difference has been answered. I'll tackle the jack issue. You'll need a Switchcraft Mono Shallow Shaft Jack, which is Switchcraft Jack #11. They sell for $2 to $5 depending on where you buy it. You'll also need soldering iron, solder, needle nose pliers and possibly a pocket knife. It is really a straightforward swap out.

1. Unscrew and remove the control plate screws.
2. Note which terminals on the jack the black and white wires are connected to. Write it down. There are only two wires. This isn't rocket science.
3. Put a thick towel down OVER as much of the top of the instrument's body as possible and UNDER as much of the control plate as possible to protect the guitar's finish.
4. Apply heat from soldering iron to one terminal connection while using the needle nose pliers to gently pull each wire free of the existing jack.
5. Use needle nose pliers very carefully or a socket wrench to loosen the nut holding the jack on the exterior of the pickguard. Remove the nut and the jack will slip right out. Probably fall right out acutally.
6. Install new jack and tighten up the nut using a socket wrench or very carefully with needle nose pliers so that the jack is oriented roughly the same.
7. Slip the black wire and the white wire back into the correct terminal holes, crimp them just slightly with the needle nose pliers so they don't fall out of the terminal lug holes and then solder both in place.
8. Replace control plate to original position and reinstall screws.

DONE!

If you lack soldering skills visit my DO IT YOURSELF SETUP AND MAINTENANCE page from the Resources Page link in my forum signature below and next to last near the very bottom of that page is a section on SOLDERING. There are several good links there. Just a little practice with some junk wire and you'll get the hang of it. Very good skill to have.

Very nice write-up Dave.


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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:57 am
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Thanks, I have a soldering gun and my dad understandds all of this stuff. I think I'll buy the new P Bass and get a new input jack and pickguard for my jazz. Black p guard on Blake body will look cool!
Thanks alot, Will P


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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:45 pm
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good luck dude... I myself fell in love with the P bass especially with the funk machine, a weird thing since my main bass is a fender Jazz..

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Just got back from a road trip and spotted this thread this morning.

Just one other bit of info -

Using something like a Power Jazz Bass Special and manipulating the controls, a bassist can make a J-Bass sound like a P-Bass... but not vice versa.

I have a couple of each type and in a pinch, if I only have the J-bass with me, I use my J- Bass control set up to sound like a P-Bass. It's not exactly the same, but to most audiences, they will not know the difference.

Test the various setups before you purchase anything new and you may see what I mean. Good luck in your testing and eventual purchase. :)

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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:47 am
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thanks, I have a squier affinity jazz. Two volumes and a tone. Can I get the p sound with my current bass? I'll still buy a p bass for the look and to have two basses, but it's always nice to know how to get certain tones!


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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:29 am
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getting a p-ish sound is when playing the jazz neck pickup on solo and fiddling with your tone knob.. it sounds close but not really that p. thumb..


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