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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 2:04 am
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I have one of these, it is a great guitar to use, I would recomend getting one


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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:04 pm
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lpdeluxe wrote:
Update: in February I bought a Mesa/Boogie Walkabout Scout 1x15 bass amp, and since then I've been playing my Fender AV '57 P through it. That is the tone to die for! I've never been happier with a rig than I have been with the M/B and the '57.

Anyway, I started to think maybe my '51 was surplus to requirements, so I made a point of taking it out instead of the '57. The result? That '51 ain't going nowhere!

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Long story short: the '51 ain't going nowhere. I'm going to start taking both, with an A/B switch, to the gig.


If you like the single-coil sound, you may want to try the Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounder single coil, it's a bit hotter, and is a secret weapon for many. It might have that extra bit of sustain you're missing, but still cuts. I don't have one, but I know some on this forum swear by the QP single coil.


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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:00 pm
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LawDaddy wrote:
If you like the single-coil sound, you may want to try the Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounder single coil, it's a bit hotter, and is a secret weapon for many. It might have that extra bit of sustain you're missing, but still cuts. I don't have one, but I know some on this forum swear by the QP single coil.


I failed to mention that I modified my '51 with a QP, an American Deluxe four-saddle bridge, and an Electrosocket jack.

In fact, the only P (out of four, currently) that DOESN'T have a QP is my AV '57. I personally love 'em, with Thomastik-Infeld Jazz Flats on the side. And who said I was "missing" the sustain? I love having a split coil for the ballads and the single coil for the rockabilly or whatever.

Last night I left the '51 in its case and played the '57: while I had initially thought I wouldn't like the '51, in the event, once we worked through Georgia on my Mind, I was ready for the single coil again. It's difficult to get a smooth, legato jazz sound from the '51, but I have an A/B switch, so it turns out to not be a problem at all!

The amazing thing is that the rhythm player -- a guy who has been very picky about my bass sound over the years -- professes to not be able to tell the difference between the two Precisions. "Trust me," I said: "the feel is totally different."

I feel like I've fallen in love again. All it took was an amp that cost twice as much as the bass....

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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:36 pm
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lpdeluxe wrote:
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The amazing thing is that the rhythm player -- a guy who has been very picky about my bass sound over the years -- professes to not be able to tell the difference between the two Precisions. "Trust me," I said: "the feel is totally different."

I feel like I've fallen in love again. All it took was an amp that cost twice as much as the bass....


Ah, OK. I'm primarily a guitar player, and can attest that we often do not listen to the bass tone. But if YOU can feel, HE can feel it! I really didn't appreciate bass tone until my daughter picked it up a few years ago. Since then, I've learned a lot through teaching her and modding her gear. :))

One last question: have you tried any different caps? One of my daughter's basses is a P with a QP split-coil. We can get some real nice legato tones for finger work after I installed a .47 Orange Drop. A little roll off with the tone knob, and the QP changes character quite nicely. Don't know if it would do the same for the single coil.

Finally, sometimes that happens with amps ;)


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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 1:03 pm
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Mine has the factory 0.10 microfarad cap. I love the way the simple circuitry still has several "sweet spots" for different material.

It's more usual to have a .047 or .050 cap in there, but my Classic '50s P had such a sweet sound (again, with a QP) that I pulled the .047 out of my fretless and installed an 0.10. I don't know that the construction makes that much difference: Leo bought from the lowest bidder, you know. The main difference between the various types is the manufacturing tolerances and how long they retain something like their original specs. Since original '51 Ps are still around, making great sound with their original cheapo caps, I suggest there are better ways to improve the sound. On the other hand, the investment is minimal.

I tend to look at basses and amps as tools, but, every now and then, I find one where expressiveness is more than enough reason to play a particular piece of kit. I am also a skeptic, and firmly believe that not every "upgrade" makes a difference (and that not every difference is an improvement! A friend installed a Torres cap kit in his SF Super Reverb, and it ruined the amp, to me). I learned long ago that my playing was improved a LOT more by obsessing over the music rather than the tool kit.

As I've said elsewhere, back in my motorcycle racing days, there was an element that insisted on the latest, trick parts (NASA Teflon-insulated silver coil wire, anyone?) but I quickly figured out that they spent a lot more time trying to get their bikes to actually run, while the rest of us were out there on the track, racing the snot out of our more conventional machines. Just a thought.

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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 3:11 pm
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Here's my '51 reissue and CS '55 reissue, along with my GB rig:

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Choosing the right amp is key to getting good tone too, and this amp kills. Genz Benz is the best thing going right now IMO.


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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:37 pm
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I also have a stock butterscotch one that's a 1999-2002 model and I love it. But lets see how does it effect to others.


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