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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:57 am
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Ok, it's not a fender but it is actually a squier classic vibe 60s p bass. It is awesome.... Practically a fender, which says squier on it. The lacquer is beautiful, and the tone and volume pots feel more quality compard to those that were on my fender classic series p bass....this is so much better than a mim fender...in what way is a classic series bass better? Im thinking maybe the quality of the wood... But what about the electronics?


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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:35 am
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The new instruments Squier manufactures are a lot better than the Squier's of old. I have a 70's Vintage Modified Jazz. The wood in my bass is soft maple and it has the Seymour Duncan pups. Obviously an upgrade.

It's obvious that you have a bass that will perform just as you want it to. From earlier posts, anyone who has played them, likes them.

Enjoy!


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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:10 am
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yeh omg, it's so amazing, no joke. but the pickup seems louder than my other fenders, and my classic series fender precision (fiesta red) certainly didnt sound like this when i got it. This bass just has a ring to it.

One thing tho, i dont like the dome shaped knobs, i prefer the normal P bass ones, and they have no screw on the side of them.....do you konw how to remove them?


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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:26 pm
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My jazz is loud too. I agree that the domed knobs aren't as nice as the Precision knobs. I haven't seen one up close but I think you put a flat blade under them and lift them off. You probably have a split shaft that compresses when you put them on. Let's hope Brother Dave is going to read this, he'll probably know.


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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:49 pm
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If there's no screws on the side then they're push on knobs. As stated above, just get a knife under it and wedge it out. Once you get it out once, it's easier to get them off again.


In terms of what's different, the body and neck are not the same quality as MIM. Squier bodies are made from many many pieces of wood, whereas the MIM's use fewer pieces, and thus is considerably more resonant. The fretting on MIM necks tends to also be better, though I prefer the gloss urethane finish on the classic vibe basses to the thick statin finishes on the MIMs.

The squier classic vibe is a good platform to work off of, and amazing for the price. Don't be fooled: the MIM is a superior bass. You may not prefer the electronics, but pickups can easily be swapped. You'll never get the body and neck to be the same, and you simply can't get the same tone from a squier body as from a MIM body because of the difference in body resonance.

That being said, the classic vibe is a MUCH better value for the money you put in. Considering the cheapest MIM is 600 bucks, I'd hardly say the difference in quality is 250 dollars. I hear a lot of people say it's not worth putting money into a cheaper bass like a squier. However when you're on a budget, it's sometimes worth getting the most bang from your buck, and the squier is certainly a better value for what you get.

It's difficult to say what to do if you're on a tight budget. I think if you are planning on buying a bass to use for a few years, it's a great value. Personally, I might go for the classic vibe and replace the pickup: it would be much cheaper for something I'd be happier with in the short term.

However if I was looking for something to use for a longer period of time, I'd go for a better platform like an MIM, MIJ, or MIA. Remember: you can always swap pickups, hardware, and electronics. It's a job that you can easily phase over several years.


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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:58 am
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Just pull straight up on the knobs.

They just push on and pull off.

Split shaft pots. There really is no need to use a knife on it. Just pull. If the knob is slick use a rubber glove and it will just pull off.

As a general rule you use push on/pull off knobs on a split shaft pot and use knobs with set screws on a solid shaft pot.

There are aftermarket knobs that push on which have no dome. Check at Guitar Parts Resource dot com on line. Allparts and Stewmac also.

Some people claim success in using solid shaft knobs by carefully aligning the set screw to slip in between the shaft split. However then the knobs spin slightly off center. However it does work.


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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:11 am
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Thanks Brother Dave, I pulled the knobs off my MB5 and had to use a thin narrow putty knife, after putting a piece of thin plastic under the blade to keep the knife from marking the wood.


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oxfan wrote:
Thanks Brother Dave, I pulled the knobs off my MB5 and had to use a thin narrow putty knife, after putting a piece of thin plastic under the blade to keep the knife from marking the wood.


OK! Whatever works! But the words "knife" and "bass" make me a tad nervous! LOL


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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:31 am
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Nicolas wrote:
yeh omg, it's so amazing, no joke. but the pickup seems louder than my other fenders, and my classic series fender precision (fiesta red) certainly didnt sound like this when i got it. This bass just has a ring to it.

One thing tho, i dont like the dome shaped knobs, i prefer the normal P bass ones, and they have no screw on the side of them.....do you konw how to remove them?


You can also use a hankerchief or a t-shirt and wrap the cloth under the knob and pull up. The knobs should come off w/o scratching your bass.

I agree that the tone from the classic vibe basses is exceptional for their price point.
I would'nt change a thing on those basses. They work as is.

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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:43 am
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brotherdave wrote:
Some people claim success in using solid shaft knobs by carefully aligning the set screw to slip in between the shaft split. However then the knobs spin slightly off center. However it does work.


I use jazz knobs with screws on split shaft pots and it works fine. It takes a little time to align it, but I have the knobs perfectly in line with the section of the pickguard they're aligned to.

I'd say you don't want to alighn it between the split shaft, instead aligning it on the outer edge. Even though it isn't a smooth surface, the screw on the knob is too large to fit between the cracks, and if you have them on tight enough there's enough friction to keep them from moving. It works just fine on my bass.

Just have to be careful because for jazz basses the split in the pot is right where the screw is supposed to be. I just turned the pot very slightly on the pickguard so the screw hit the side instead of the split in the pot.


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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:11 pm
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Ahhhh thanks guys so much for your help, I shall be changing the knobs as soon as I have the time, because I love my P bass all traditional. + thanks very much Brotherdave! you are of great help to everyone on the forum, such great reputation, i was so glad you helped!! As it was mentioned, to not be fooled by a squier, as opposed to a MIM, on the subject of resonance, my first MIM was heap, and never have a played a MIM better than this one.MIA and MIJ have had a ring, or such great workmanship.THe workmanship/fretting is splendid on this model. MAYBE i have just been really lucky that this particular squier is more resonant than other exact models :)


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