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Post subject: precision bass serial number
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:06 pm
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Guys I have one Bass Precision, but no show the serial number Z7168211 why???


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Welcome to the forum Nick!

Sorry, but I do not completely understand your question.

When using your serial number the Guitar Dater Project says:

"Your guitar was made at the
Corona Plant (Fender), USA
in the Year(s): 2007 - 2008"

If that is not the answer please rephrase the question.


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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:55 pm
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brotherdave wrote:
Welcome to the forum Nick!

Sorry, but I do not completely understand your question.

When using your serial number the Guitar Dater Project says:

"Your guitar was made at the
Corona Plant (Fender), USA
in the Year(s): 2007 - 2008"

If that is not the answer please rephrase the question.





can u tell me about this serial number... S 879725.... Can u describe for me?... IF i want to sell my axe, how much can put a price?


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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:36 pm
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thehammer wrote:
brotherdave wrote:
Welcome to the forum Nick!

Sorry, but I do not completely understand your question.

When using your serial number the Guitar Dater Project says:

"Your guitar was made at the
Corona Plant (Fender), USA
in the Year(s): 2007 - 2008"

If that is not the answer please rephrase the question.


can u tell me about this serial number... S 879725.... Can u describe for me?... IF i want to sell my axe, how much can put a price?


S8 means 1978 if it's a usa made bass! I would say that you should sell it to me for $500 usd! Deal?

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householdsaint wrote:
thehammer wrote:
brotherdave wrote:
Welcome to the forum Nick!

Sorry, but I do not completely understand your question.

When using your serial number the Guitar Dater Project says:

"Your guitar was made at the
Corona Plant (Fender), USA
in the Year(s): 2007 - 2008"

If that is not the answer please rephrase the question.


can u tell me about this serial number... S 879725.... Can u describe for me?... IF i want to sell my axe, how much can put a price?


S8 means 1978 if it's a usa made bass! I would say that you should sell it to me for $500 usd! Deal?





It's made from USA... 1978... hurmmm.. thanx for this info.... USD 500? Let me think first.. hehehe


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Post subject: Re: precision bass serial number
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:26 am
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If it makes any difference or even if this is not the place for my comment- I just paid what amounts to $1000 for an 83 P bass all original. I think that is a fair price. I know that hamster will be worth more every year. Don't think it won't.


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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:55 pm
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are the '80s basses finally catching up in price now? it's about time huh :)

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Post subject: Re: precision bass serial number
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:17 am
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My friend put it to me this way: "The 70's were the 60's when they were gone and now the 80's are the 70's as they become scarce and soon the 90's will be the 80's when they are gone".... The insight that man has is just incredible..... It makes sense to me.


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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:33 pm
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stroker vance wrote:
My friend put it to me this way: "The 70's were the 60's when they were gone and now the 80's are the 70's as they become scarce and soon the 90's will be the 80's when they are gone".... The insight that man has is just incredible..... It makes sense to me.


It all has to do with numbers. Production numbers. Scarcity, condition and desirability is what boosts value. As time goes by all instruments naturally become relatively scarcer by attrition. No CBS era instrument will ever be worth as much as a Pre-CBS because of the far greater numbers of them in existence.

The value of ALL "vintage" instruments (I consider any totally original instrument over 20 yrs old "vintage" class) has been rising over the past 3 months. This is one sign of an improving USA economy, or maybe just people wanting to break out of the doldrums and splurge on something to make them feel better about their plight. So instruments are bringing 65 to 75% of appraisal instead of 55 to 65%. That's a good sign, and I hope the trend continues.

Since it is a numbers game, do not expect a CBS era instrument to ever fetch what a pre-CBS does.

One analogy is baseball cards. Only the very scarce ones ever become truly valuable. The others tend to go up during a player's career and then go down when the player retires then rise again only if and when the player goes into the Hall of Fame. (I have hundreds of Andy Van Slyke cards and Frank Thomas cards so I know what I'm talking about. Neither of these very popular players will be Hall of Famers but were darned good players and good cards to collect at the time but are now and always will be worth little. I also have many Mickey Mantle cards and other Mantle items too like a Mantle bat and glove and signed ball.)

The early Mickey Mantle cards are VERY scarce. Those are extremely valuable and worth more than my car. Later Mickey Mantle cards not so valuable, more like my bicycle. The scarcer earlier ones will always be worth more because there are far fewer of them in EX to MT condition.

I'm not saying this to burst anyone's bubble, but a 1978 Fender anything will never be worth more than a fraction of what a pre 1964 is worth. It is just a fact. They all will go up in value. But the vast majority of the remaining Pre-CBS ones will always be out there and frankly those are the ones that will always have the most value.

There is no way a 1967 Mantle card will be worth what a 1951 Mantle is worth. And no way will a 1967 Fender ever will be worth what a 1963 Fender will be worth. It is all because of numbers. CBS ramped up and automated production turning an artist workshop into an assembly line running at a speed even Henry Ford never envisioned.

So, while they are going to go up in value, no CBS era instrument is going to soar or ever be as desirable as Pre-CBS. There are just too many of them. To say the 70's are today's 60's is folly. Or that the 80's are next year's 70's. Totally ludicrous. The Pre-1964's will always be the ones with the most value. And they are out there, and they always will be. People own them, play them, record with them, and some even tour with them. I do NOT play out vintage instruments. No way. I gig the cheapest ones I can get away with and leave the old wood at home. I'd advise anyone with a brain to do the same.

All vintage instruments will go up in value, but the CBS ones will never be worth anything close to the pre-CBS ones. It is because there are just so many more of them. It is and always will be a numbers game.


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Post subject: Re: precision bass serial number
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:00 pm
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Brotherdave, what years are the CBS Era? Pardon my ignorance, since I've never been a collector, I've never paid any attention to the years of certain models - or ERAs for that matter :)

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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:58 am
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It is widely considered that Fender's 1964 models were a "compromise" leading up to the CBS buy out in early 1965. There were changes in beginning July 1, 1964 that streamlined the production process, especially in the finishing of the bodies and necks. Fullerplast sealant was the biggest change.

The CBS era would be early 1965 (including the remainder of the 1964 model year which ended June 30, 1965) through the 1984 model year.

In 1985 a collection of then Fender employees formed the new Fender Musical Instrument Company and bought Fender and all associated musical instrument related companies from CBS.

The entire CBS era is full of some pretty interesting R&D things. The modern FMIC era saw a return to the roots of the brand's success, and the acquisition of even more brands including Sunn, Gretch and Dearmond.


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Post subject: Re: precision bass serial number
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:34 am
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Thank you for the info as usual brotherdave!

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Blew me out of the water again Dave???-- gosh-- what I was saying was in general terms of understanding the way a guitar prices rise. To say what I was saying is "folly" is odd. What's that all about? I wasn't trying to split hairs with alot of stats and figures and analogies.. It was in general. I wasn't thinking Pre CBS or post CBS. My 74 P bass cost me 350. It has gone up in price. That's basically what I was saying period. As the 70's guitars become more expensive and get out of my reach- I turn to 80's guitars which are more affordable because the 70's guitars are too expensive but there are 80's guitars with cheaper prices. The 80's guitars go up in prices. As those get out of reach in price then one will go to the 90's guitars and those also will rise in price (we hope). It's what is affordable at the time.
So now I have confronted the Guru. I suppose I'll be banished and be deemed
non- viable . Admittedly B Dave you probubly know alot more than I do about the makings and stats and technical stuff and numbers and all that. That's fine.
The thing with the capacitors was splitting hairs on me also. Okay so now that's out. I'm ready fire away.


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Post subject: Re: precision bass serial number
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:58 am
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SV, all those 80s bass have to be original? I mean, I've seen '70s bass going for astronomical price and it has aftermarket pups, or not original bridge, some have respray paint jobs. Does it have to be MIA? How about MIJ stuff? I'm not selling mine, since mine are modded, but just to get an idea for my self.

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Post subject: Re: precision bass serial number
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:10 pm
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The Mexicans and etc. from what I have seen don't seem to have a big collector market- I'm talking Mex Std. I can only hope I'm right on that but you never know. There could be some pin head trying to collect every Mexican Standard ever made to try and drive prices up so he can become rich in 2046!! -------- I digress.... The Roadworns are relativley a new item and those have me wanting more - I like them but I don't know that they will be big collectors. I hope not. That way I can get them and become rich in 2045 .

It's just the way I have seen it go for a long time. As the 70's era guitars dry up - the 80's guitars become more expensive. It was the same with the 60's and 70's ******** in general -- not talking PRE or POST CBS--- or SPECIAL this or that**** it's just a common sense thing. As the 80's guitars go away the 90's will rise as sure as car prices will go up. ******NOT TALKING VETTES, LAMBORGINIS and EXOTICS or anything related to anything what-so -ever in all of time. I think I have my disclaimers in order. I am not a guitar dealer even though I play one on TV. ...I just calls 'em as I see's 'em.


A Fender guitar as far as I know -- if it has parts replaced or refinished and other stuff like that - (that I can't predict,) then what I have heard is that in the eye of a serious collector the value of said guitar is reduced. That would be for any guitar I would imagine (imagine is the key word here).

I don't know if I answered your question but I did my best. I'm pretty gun shy!!! HA! HA! That's a joke. It's all good!!!!!


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