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Post subject: mark in neck pocket
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:59 am
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my 63 precision has an mark in The
neck pocket. It looks like an T. Pressen
down in the wood. I've sen it in another 63 bass.

What is this?


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Post subject: Re: mark in neck pocket
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:17 am
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Hi again. You'll soon notice the forum really loves pics, and answers come a lot easier if you post a couple.
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Post subject: Re: mark in neck pocket
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:58 am
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ok, here´s the pic. I´ve seen exactly the same "T" on another precision 63.

Does it mean anything special or mark from a tool..?

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Post subject: Re: mark in neck pocket
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:01 am
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i don't know what that is or what caused it. It is obviously some kind of tool mark.
Your bass appears to have been stripped of its finish and i wonder if the refinisher used some kind of clamp that left that mark.


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Post subject: Re: mark in neck pocket
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:21 pm
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BCbassman wrote:
i don't know what that is or what caused it. It is obviously some kind of tool mark.
Your bass appears to have been stripped of its finish and i wonder if the refinisher used some kind of clamp that left that mark.


Agree. That is not any kind of original factory marking.


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Post subject: Re: mark in neck pocket
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:00 pm
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But..
This restorarion has the same mark

http://www.bravewoodguitars.co.uk/63Prestoration.html

Strange . .. ..


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Post subject: Re: mark in neck pocket
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:06 am
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jabbe wrote:
But..
This restorarion has the same mark

http://www.bravewoodguitars.co.uk/63Prestoration.html

Strange . .. ..

I like the way this bass turned out after the restoration 8) .

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Post subject: Re: mark in neck pocket
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:32 pm
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luckman67 wrote:
jabbe wrote:
But..
This restorarion has the same mark

http://www.bravewoodguitars.co.uk/63Prestoration.html

Strange . .. ..

I like the way this bass turned out after the restoration 8) .

Yes, it is extremely well done. The 'T' looks to me as if the luthier/refinisher struck a flat-tip screwdriver a couple of licks with a hammer purposely to alert an expert to the refinish/modification so as not to be passed off as an original. If true = brilliant!

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Post subject: Re: mark in neck pocket
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:58 am
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Through the Leo Fender era up until late 64 Fullerton used a finishing technique involving NAILS to hold up the instrument bodies while it rested on a rotating table akin to a "Lazy Susan" you sometimes see on a dining table. The resulting nail holes on an instrument's front side (top) were either in the neck pocket, control cavity, pickup cavities or placed so they were certain to covered by the pickguard or bridge on the front of the body. Because of the larger and thus heavier upper horn on the second generation P-Bass body coupled with the second generation pickguard that did not extend onto the upper horn it is my belief that a "T" shaped piece of metal was temporarily driven into the neck pocket to better stabilize the body when turning the paint wheel so it would be less likely to tip over on the upper horn side as the wheel was rotated. I do not think it is a refinish mark but an original mark. This mark does not appear on other pre-CBS Fender instruments so far as I know, just the bass bodies.


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Post subject: Re: mark in neck pocket
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:08 am
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Brotherdave! wonderful! thank you very much!


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Post subject: Re: mark in neck pocket
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:25 pm
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The mark is original to the factory, and I also have only seen it on bass bodies.

Here's a detailed pic of my 100% original 1963 Fiesta Red Bass VI - notice the white primer, 'paint stick' mark and T mark in the neck pocket.

Cheers,

BT

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Post subject: Re: mark in neck pocket
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:09 am
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brotherdave wrote:
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Because of the larger and thus heavier upper horn on the second generation P-Bass body coupled with the second generation pickguard that did not extend onto the upper horn it is my belief that a "T" shaped piece of metal was temporarily driven into the neck pocket to better stabilize the body when turning the paint wheel so it would be less likely to tip over on the upper horn side as the wheel was rotated.


I question this because the photo that bterry posted shows it underneath the paint stick which means that it had to be done before it started the paint process. Also, it is not very deep and to have anything that has some weight hold on it would have to be deeper.

In the picture that bterry posted looks like there is white primer under the paint stick. You should either see unfinished wood under the paint stick or the yellow dye used for sunbursts. Does your bass have nail holes?


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