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Post subject: Stupid slotted tuners!!!!!!!
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:20 pm
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If you want an expensive wood and metal sculpture that could make music if you could fit strings to it, get a jaguar. If you actually want a guitar that can be re strung, I hear Gibson make some nice ones.

Yes my withering sarcasm is born out of hours wasted trying to fit strings to this piece of $#!+. Ive played strats with proper machine heads all my life. This slotted garbage is about as stupid a design as I've ever seen on anything that was designed for people to actually pay money for.

I don't have a question or anything to contribute, other than the vain hope that someone as stupid as me who is considering buying one of these reads this and realises "Hmmm, perhaps I shouldn't buy a guitar that has poorly designed components fitted to it just because that's how it was done in the 60s."

Rage-inspired ranting aside, this guitar is useless for mid-gig string changes. No wonder no one plays them.


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Post subject: Re: Stupid slotted tuners!!!!!!!
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:38 pm
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I wish I'd thought of that. Before I bought it! :-)


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Post subject: Re: Stupid slotted tuners!!!!!!!
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:37 pm
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SKcoppertele wrote:
Step one: Measure to desired length (leave space for winding)
Step two: Cut string
Step three: Put a little bend at the end
Step four: Stick that bend in the hole at the bottom of the tuner, this should hold it in place nicely as you wind.
Step five: Tune up
Repeat steps one-five on each string
Step six: Rock out with volume on 11


You can also use the "brute force" method as part of Step four - hold the string in place with the thumb of on hand while you wind with the other hand.

I've had these tuners since I got my first good (i.e. not a $10 guitar from KMart) guitar in 1979 and never had any problems.

On the other hand I hate what the op calls "proper" tuners, I can never get decent winds around the short posts on Fender's staggered-height tuners.


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Post subject: Re: Stupid slotted tuners!!!!!!!
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:10 pm
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SKcoppertele wrote:
Step one: Measure to desired length (leave space for winding)
Step two: Cut string
Step three: Put a little bend at the end
Step four: Stick that bend in the hole at the bottom of the tuner, this should hold it in place nicely as you wind.
Step five: Tune up
Repeat steps one-five on each string
Step six: Rock out with volume on 11

Exactly-
I love slotted tuners--my Mustang has them, and if I could have them on all my guitars I would.
I have another guitar that has machine heads that are slotted and have the holes in the posts--and guess what?
I use the slots, not the holes.
As I said-- I love them--and they work great.

(And my basses have them--which works real well--especially for that size of string.)

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Post subject: Re: Stupid slotted tuners!!!!!!!
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:01 am
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I've managed to successfully avoid them for years and always thought they were a stupid design but because so many guitars have them I assumed they couldn't be that bad to work with. I'm sure it seems crazy if you have experience with these things but to me it's way too haphazard. It just seems to be inviting slipping and breakage. I know I could change the tuners but rather than do that I think I'm going to trade it for a strat.


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:32 am
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Personally, I find the Klusen style tuners quite easy to deal with after a few tries. For gig changes, one only needs to keep a pair of wire cutters on hand... Cheers!

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Post subject: Re: Stupid slotted tuners!!!!!!!
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:03 am
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I find slotted tuners so much faster & simpler to change strings on.
It's a major reason I prefer them--and they do hold the tuning if you do it properly--which again, isn't rocket science.

But everybody's allowed their own preferences--but don't make a blanket condemnation of them--just say you don't like them or prefer other tuners.
I haven't experienced slippage--and the only breakage I've had is at different points of the string--like the bridge on one guitar (a bit of filing & graphite cured that.)

You might not like them, but a lot of us would not consider them a stupid design.

(And they work very well on a bass.)

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Post subject: Re: Stupid slotted tuners!!!!!!!
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:17 am
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HMMM? The OP says they were a stupid design before he bought the guitar...another one of those self fulfilling prophecies? Me thinks YES!

These tuners have been used for 60+ years and I have NEVER heard anyone complain like the OP...give me a break!

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