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Post subject: Fender Mustang Special Pawn Shop
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:16 pm
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Hi, got a Fender Mustang Special Pawn Shop guitar. Wanted to replace the tuners. Which ones will fit this guitar?


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Post subject: Re: Fender Mustang Special Pawn Shop
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:11 am
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Maybe trust this info:
http://www.fender.com/support/articles/ ... placement/

Or just do it the old fashioned way: take a caliper, measure the hole and post diameters and go on those.

BTW, why do you want to replace those stock tuners..?


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Post subject: Re: Fender Mustang Special Pawn Shop
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:35 pm
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I had trouble keeping it in tune. I think im going to restring it first. maybe add some of that lube/nut sauce to see if that helps. Seemed as though the strings were "slipping" after playing a song or 2


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Post subject: Re: Fender Mustang Special Pawn Shop
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:22 pm
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Generally those vintage style tuners are pretty good. What I do while stringing it is continually stretch them out while tightening it and always keep tension on the string throughout the process. Then I bend them for a few minutes (really bend them) before final tuning. Seems to do the trick. If you go with locking tuners you might need to ream out the holes slightly but if that is the case they do make bushing adapters so you can go back to original in the future. However it could leave screw holes or a screw hole visible on the back of the headstock depending on the mounting type of the replacement tuners and to some that is a concern. The lube stuff can't hurt but if it is going out of tune from "slipping" that is most likely a tuner issue or the way it was strung.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Mustang Special Pawn Shop
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:41 pm
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Hey thanks for the info. Ill give it a try


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Post subject: Re: Fender Mustang Special Pawn Shop
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:15 am
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IMHO, tuning problems are mostly related to other than tuners themselves, that's why I asked (thought you may just prefer locking tuners or something like that).
I'm guessing you are not very experienced, so if ebaysux's advice don't help, take it to a pro for a full setup, ask to follow what he/she does.
BTW, the nut grooves may also need checking, just a few strokes with a folded #1000 grit wet/dry paper before the lubing might help.
(And: the idiot test is to check all screws etc. are tightened correctly).

In case you end up replacing those tuners:
My humble advice is, don't mess with the tuner holes.
Best to get tuners that fit right in,
second choise to use conversion bushings.


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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:04 pm
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jmattis wrote:
IMHO, tuning problems are mostly related to other than tuners themselves, that's why I asked (thought you may just prefer locking tuners or something like that).
I'm guessing you are not very experienced, so if ebaysux's advice don't help, take it to a pro for a full setup, ask to follow what he/she does.
BTW, the nut grooves may also need checking, just a few strokes with a folded #1000 grit wet/dry paper before the lubing might help.
(And: the idiot test is to check all screws etc. are tightened correctly).

In case you end up replacing those tuners:
My humble advice is, don't mess with the tuner holes.
Best to get tuners that fit right in,
second choise to use conversion bushings.


Well those guitars are a hard tail so unless the strings are binding in the nut what else could it be but a tuner issue or improperly strung? According to the OP the strings are slipping after a song or two. If the strings were binding at the nut I would think that would be noticed after the first few seconds of playing. However it is an easy check.....just see if the strings are binding at the nut buy loosening the tuning and notice if the string is binding in the nut or not.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Mustang Special Pawn Shop
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:03 pm
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I changed the strings from 9's to 10's. Assuming the strings are binding at the nut. Should have stayed with 9's I guess
I had trouble with the toggle switch so I brought it back to the store to get it fixed and asked to get them to put 10's on there while they had it (all still under warranty) guess the nut was not set up for 10's. I'm going to put 9's back on there and adjust intonation as needed.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Mustang Special Pawn Shop
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:12 pm
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I am very curious to hear how your string change/tuner change/adjustment went.
I have the same problem... needs constant retuning. :cry:
This is the one concern I have heard about this guitar. Hard tail and still not staying in tune. Hmmm...

Have a '93 MIM Squier Strat that keeps tune for what seems like weeks, :shock: :D
The 2012 Fender Pawn Shop Mustang Special - after every few songs. :( :?:


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Post subject: Re: Fender Mustang Special Pawn Shop
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:50 am
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Old topic revived…

OK, let's go. Fender has only published the wiring diagram, not the full parts list with part numbers, but my guess is these are the tuners: https://shop.fender.com/en-US/parts/ele ... 12049.html
Contacting Fender Consumer Relations should give a definite answer.
But: those tuners have not had a major rush of problems in the many models they've been used.

Anyways, the process of a tuner upgrade means taking one off and measuring it and the headstock, then comparing those measures to the replacement candidates one has chosen.
It's always best to get new ones that fit with as little work as possible - especially reaming the peghead holes is no easy task.

I dont' want to doubt anyone's experiences, but ut in my own experience (it's way longer than I want to reveal), even the cheapest tuning machines stay in tune if they are not mechanically broken. (Even the dirty/rusty ones, although those should be cleaned & lubed for convenience in tuning.)
And of course, guitars don't stay in tune forever, so I'm talking about some relative & abstract "staying in tune" period.

For a non-tremolo guitar, my quick checklist would be:
Strings OK (not old, not defective)?
Stringed up properly (streched, not slipping)?
Nut absolutely perfect (material, slots)?
Neck stabile (neck plate screws snug, proper support from the truss rod)?
String tree (clean, smooth)?
Every string/other contact point lubed?


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