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Post subject: Jazzmaster dilemma
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:33 am
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Hi, I'm 14 years old and I have been playing the same old mim strat for five years. I think it's about time for a new electric (I just got a nice Taylor acoustic so I can't ask my parents for it), but I have a budget of about $950 dollars. I was thinking about getting the classic player jazzmaster special, but I Really Really like the look and tone of the American vintage 65 jm. Of course, this is way over my budget at the moment. Is the classic player a good, quality guitar, or should I wait a year or two until I can afford the 65? Thanks!

Ps I do use a mix of clean and high gain tones.


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Post subject: Re: Jazzmaster dilemma
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:18 am
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I think the Classic Player Jazzmaster is an excellent guitar. Aside from the limited selection of finishes, there really aren't any issues IMO.

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Post subject: Re: Jazzmaster dilemma
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:24 pm
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How's the bridge? I've heard that jazzmasters tend to have issues there


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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:44 pm
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The CP Jazzmaster solves that problem by moving the tremolo unit slightly closer to the bridge and beveling the bottom of the neck pocket, which in totality increases the break angle of the strings as they transit the bridge saddles.

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Post subject: Re: Jazzmaster dilemma
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:38 pm
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http://www.fender.com/squier/series/vin ... -sunburst/

You should check out the Squier vintage modified Jazzmasters and Jazzmaster special ..they are exceptional guitars. the squire Jazzmaster special is very comparable to the classic player Jazzmaster minus the vibrato bar.

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Post subject: Re: Jazzmaster dilemma
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:05 pm
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The Classic Player Jazzmaster is a very versatile guitar, and has been one of my go-to guitars for several years. The pickups are kind of hot and can do everything from jangly clean to high gain crunch to jazz.
A lot of people don't like and don't use the special jazz circuit, but I find that if you play through a Vox amp it sounds great. Through other amps it's very muffled.

The only thing I would warn you about is that the truss rod adjustment is at the bottom of the neck and you have to completely remove the neck to adjust the truss rod. I believe some of the other Jazzmasters are the same way. It is a huge inconvenience just to make a minor adjustment, but I have to do it two or three times a year as the humidity changes with the seasons. You do get quicker at it over time, but still... I don't know why they did that.


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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:46 pm
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cormorant wrote:
The Classic Player Jazzmaster is a very versatile guitar, and has been one of my go-to guitars for several years. The pickups are kind of hot and can do everything from jangly clean to high gain crunch to jazz.
A lot of people don't like and don't use the special jazz circuit, but I find that if you play through a Vox amp it sounds great. Through other amps it's very muffled.

The only thing I would warn you about is that the truss rod adjustment is at the bottom of the neck and you have to completely remove the neck to adjust the truss rod. I believe some of the other Jazzmasters are the same way. It is a huge inconvenience just to make a minor adjustment, but I have to do it two or three times a year as the humidity changes with the seasons. You do get quicker at it over time, but still... I don't know why they did that.


I would make a notch in the neck pocket (like it should have been there) so you do not have to remove the neck.

For example on this early 70's tele body (I know because I have a few) they were smart and notched the neck pocket...
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From what I have heard on the real early ones Fender notched it with a chisel but if you know someone with a router who knows how to use it it should come out super clean.

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Post subject: Re: Jazzmaster dilemma
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:22 pm
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The classic player guitars are nice, however if you want a pure Jazzmaster tone, you'll need to swap out your pickups.

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The CP Jazzmaster solves that problem by moving the tremolo unit slightly closer to the bridge and beveling the bottom of the neck pocket, which in totality increases the break angle of the strings as they transit the bridge saddles.

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It should be noted that this is what that was INTENDED to do, but the reality is that the bridge is still, and always will be, crap. It doesn't completely solve the issue it was intended to solve, and doesn't even address the (extremely annoying) matter of strings popping out of the saddles. It DOES manage to make things a bit more tolerable, meaning a bridge swap can be put off for a while, but it should still be done.

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Post subject: Re: Jazzmaster dilemma
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:50 am
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Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
It should be noted that this is what that was INTENDED to do, but the reality is that the bridge is still, and always will be, crap.

Jazzmasters. The perfect candidates for shimming. Love them.


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