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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:49 pm
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a lot of time and typing could be saved by simply visiting places like wikipedia and the actual companies like fender.com and epiphone.com.


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Post subject: Re: Who knows what a epiphone electric is ?
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:37 pm
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Tanner_Myers12 wrote:
[it's a peace of crap knock of of gibson they play good for about at year then there done for they start to break like the strap hooks the neck gets loose and u can hear stuff shaking around in them......even u take care of it, it want last long.....its a good beginner guitar......but the best guiatar for a beginner is a squire....but yeah thats what a epiphone is plus they are made in indonesia.......not china.lol i guess thats a little bit better. :)


What the hell?!?!?! Epiphone makes kick $@! guitars! Yeah, maybe not the best, but they still are better than Squire. I own 3 of the high end Epi's and I love my Explorer, LP and G-400. They aren't bad guitars. They are really good for the money. You probably had the low end Epi's around 100$. Well, duh! You don't buy a guitar that is 100 bucks, everyone knows that! :x

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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:44 pm
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Tanner_Myers12 wrote:
[it's a peace of crap knock of of gibson they play good for about at year then there done for they start to break like the strap hooks the neck gets loose and u can hear stuff shaking around in them......even u take care of it, it want last long.....its a good beginner guitar......but the best guiatar for a beginner is a squire....but yeah thats what a epiphone is plus they are made in indonesia.......not china.lol i guess thats a little bit better. :)


:shock: What the hell?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! It's better than Squire I tell yeh! I own 3: Explorer, LP Standard and the sg g-400. They are assembled in China and the parts are from the US of A. They are pretty good for the money. Out of the 40 I own, the Explorer is one of my favorites.

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Epiphone, at one time I think, was a stand alone guitar company, then they were bought by Gibson. At first they sort of operated on their own as a stand alone company/business, with operations in the US. Sometime later, they were more-or-less relegated to offshore operations. There is tons more detail and I'm sure some Gibson historian could fill in the blanks, as well as correct me where I am wrong.
Some older epiphones are way good guitars and may be somewhat valuable from a collectors point of view. There was a time in there where the quality control was not as good as it could be, so if you are considering a purchase, check it out close.
I don't know for sure, but I think the medium to higher end Epiphones today are pretty good guitars, lots of people rave about a tube amp they have with the Epiphone name on it.



actualy when gibson guitar corp branched out into smaller companies epiphone was one of them along with valley arts and kramer


Were someone would get the idea Epiphone come about because Gibson started it is way of base. Epiphone has been around since the 1870's and they were Gibsons main competition and because of WW II they started to have hard times after it and Gibson was able to buy them in the 1950's. It was not bought to be Gibson cheap guitar line and to this day it is run as a separate company with low cost intruments (150.00) and high cost instruments (Lennon Casino's 2300.00) ( Broadway's 1900.00) (byrdland's 2000.00) ( Elitist Semi 2000.00) ( Elitist Lp 1200.00)
(Custom Plus Lp 800.00) ( LP Ultra 800.00) the high end list goes on if you think Epi's are junk then you most likley have not played them.

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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:47 am
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Highbinder wrote:
Tanner_Myers12 wrote:
[it's a peace of crap knock of of gibson they play good for about at year then there done for they start to break like the strap hooks the neck gets loose and u can hear stuff shaking around in them......even u take care of it, it want last long.....its a good beginner guitar......but the best guiatar for a beginner is a squire....but yeah thats what a epiphone is plus they are made in indonesia.......not china.lol i guess thats a little bit better. :)



*sigh*

Played one? Probably not, right? Just cos its cheap and not made in the US doesn't make it crap. Not everyone can afford an expensive guitar, not for their first guitar atleast, so just think before you start flaming. They're reasonable guitars, just like Squiers. They're not going to fall apart or blow up, or something..
-I agree here---------With Highbinder!!!!!

I picked up a Epiphone Les Paul Standard a few years ago and it actually sounds almost as good as my SG. I like it because it adds a different sound to my music. Overall it's a great guitar! I have it on a gig rack right next to my Fenders. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


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Yeah, nice sounding guitars, but ya gotta admit, one of the ugliest headstocks in guitardom.


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vwralph wrote:
a lot of time and typing could be saved by simply visiting places like wikipedia and the actual companies like fender.com and epiphone.com.


Yes, the use of Google would certainly cut down on some of the questions that get asked here!

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If you're actually interested in the history, it goes like this:

The company has its roots in Turkey, building Greek instruments. Eventually, the family moved to New York, and starting building Greek instruments there. Eventually, he moved on to building popular instruments - banjos, at the time.

He died, and his son, nicknamed "Epi," took over the company. He kept it alive, realising the change from banjos to guitars, and was one of the few companies to survive the depression.

Epi died, eventually, and the company was left weakened and run by his brothers. Gibson eventually offered $20,000 for the upright bass business, since they had none of their own, and the brothers sold the entire company.

Gibson started producing Epiphone guitars in Kalamazoo in the late fifties, and until 1969, they were produced side-by-side. There is virtually no difference between many Epiphone and Gibson models, other than the headstock.

In 1970, Gibson moved Epiphone to Japan to compete with the low-cost Asian guitars. The early-70s Japanese guitars were just Japanese guitars with an Epiphone logo. By the late-70s, they were back to making the old Epiphone archtops (based on Gibson models), and in the 80s they began making Gibson copies.

There have been up and down periods for the company, as far as quality goes, and they've moved several times - they're now made almost entirely in China. The Elitist line is made in Japan, and rival Gibsons, but they've been discontinued, except for the Casino.

Cheap Epiphones are no different than other cheap guitars. The mid-range are on par with the Mexican Fenders.

There are plenty more details elsewhere, this is all from my own memory.


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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:25 am
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I wanted the tone of a Gibson ES335, but I don't have nearly $3,000 to spend on one. A few years ago, I bought an Epiphone Dot Deluxe in sunburst with a flamed maple top. Does it sound as good as the 335? No, but I paid $399 and I don't expect it to. It approximates the sound I was looking for without emptying my bank account.

I guess some people forget that the Beatles made a lot of records playing Epi Casinos. There is a John Lee Hooker signature Epi Sheraton. I've been a Fender guy for decades, but Fenders with humbuckers don't get close enough to that HB sound I sometimes want and Epiphone is a cost effective way to get it.


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In my honest opinion, I own a mid eighties squier which I have owned since new, a epiphone les paul special 2 bought second hand for £80 and a epiphone les paul sg g400 custom also purchased second hand for £150 (list price £380 I think although this looks brand new with no dents) and I must say the LP special 2 sounds nicer than the SG and as nice as the squier although it's a different sound to the squier due to the HB p'ups).


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A few months ago, I went into a music store in small town, Manitoba, and asked to try the Gibson SG (one of the faded models) they had, along with an Epiphone SG. But I asked to do it "blind" - with my eyes shut, and they'd hand me one guitar, then the other, and not tell me which was which. I plugged into a Kustom amp, and played each for about five minutes.

I can honestly say that I couldn't tell which was which. I couldn't pick a favourite because to me, they honestly sounded the same. It was a revelation. I'd love to get a guitar with humbuckers, and honestly, an Epi SG in alpine white would fill that role nicely.


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I have just set the height of the SG bridge a little higher to damp out an annoying bit of fret buzz and as you say the sound from the 'buckers is so rich in comparison to the strats (but I just love the strats for the Gilmour sound) humbckers are nice for a bit of hard rock though. The model I have is the EPI SG-G400 Les Paul custom, shown in the pic below with my EPI Les Paul Special II.
I have just bought some Tonerider hot pick-ups from ebay and a couple of DPDT push/pull pots to convert the wiring of the Special to either Coil Tap or series/parallel to emulate the sound of a single coil on the strat with the push of a switch. I wouldn't dare stip and rewire the SG because it is just so stunning but the Special cost me very little (£70 or £80 GBP last year) so no worry there and I don't have the heart to butcher the authentic sound of the mid eighties E-series squier.

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Epiphone is to Gibson as Squier is to Fender.

Most Epiphone guitars are not made in the U.S. but in Korea, China, and Japan.


lol first accurate answer imo..... took other people TIME to get that point across


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CAFeathers wrote:
Epiphone is to Gibson as Squier is to Fender.

Most Epiphone guitars are not made in the U.S. but in Korea, China, and Japan.


Nicely put.. just right!


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I've only owned two Epis -- a Dot Deluxe and an LP Special II. The Dot was okay; for the about $400 I paid, not really a bad guitar. The intonation was never totally right on, the sound was marginally acceptable, and the playability was fair. But for an inexpensive hollow body, no complaints.

The Special II was unplayable though. I'd tried one in the store and it seemed okay, so I bought one of those "starter" sets for a friend. She'd wanted to learn guitar and I thought this would be a reasonable Christmas present. But we found that due to not well cured wood, the frets on the neck stuck out way too far to be played. The strings were awful and the intonation was even worse.

I spent $100 at my guitar tech and it came back in reasonable shape. The neck was shaved, decent strings, intonation set correctly, etc. So for about $200 total, I had a decent light, short scale solid body and the humbuckers weren't too bad either.

I've had friends with similar experiences with comparable Squires and MIM Fenders. Overall, I'd say that that the Epi and Squire/Fender lines are comparable at the lower end. I've never tried a higher end Epi, so I don't know how they'd compare with comparably priced Fender or Gibson.


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