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Post subject: Re: A few questions from a newbie, if you don't mind
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:04 am
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Yeah, I know a guy who had a Shelby Cobra and sold it back in the day...Car would be worth half a million to a million if he had kept it! Still tracks it and kicks himself.


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Post subject: Re: A few questions from a newbie, if you don't mind
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:48 pm
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Yanktar wrote:
Yeah, I know a guy who had a Shelby Cobra and sold it back in the day...Car would be worth half a million to a million if he had kept it! Still tracks it and kicks himself.


Well now you're getting into another one of my loves... cars. I'm a gearhead from way back, having owned one of the original American supercars of the mid-60's (which I ordered and waited 4 weeks, 2 days to get). A 1966 396/360HP L34 Chevelle. Cars, boats, guns, music.... some things that just make life more worth enjoying.

Sorry friends, I divert.

Your comments and thoughts are valuable to me and have given me more ideas to research. I never worried about scale length back when I bought my '64 Jaguar (heck, I was a teenager) but now that as well as the fret size, the radius, and other factors are more of a concern than they once were.

As I mentioned, one of my concerns is avoiding a hard action if possible. I thought that a shorter scale length offered a softer action because the strings don't have as much tension applied to them. This would seem to favor the Jaguar over the Jazzmaster. So if I am off in left field with this, please do chime in and offer your opinions. Also the shorter scale length combined with 22 frets would seem to help those who's hand/finger spread has diminished over the years. Again, opinions are more than welcome.

These two guitars are so close and so classic of the Fender brand, that taking a decision is really hard for me. It would help greatly if I can locate a shop that has both so I can make a direct comparison. But I still value hearing from you folks who are intimate with these guitars.


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Post subject: Re: A few questions from a newbie, if you don't mind
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:12 pm
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SouthernBoyVA wrote:
A 1966 396/360HP L34 Chevelle. Cars, boats, guns, music.... some things that just make life more worth enjoying.


Ah, yes!

"Back in the day" I owned a '67 L34 Chevelle. Butternut Yellow, M22, 3.73 axle. What a screamer!

Oh yeah......

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Post subject: Re: A few questions from a newbie, if you don't mind
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:56 pm
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My cousin had the crazy car: A '66 or '67 Sunbeam Tiger--Looked like an Alpine with a Ford 260cubic inch V-8 jammed into it. American muscle engine with English weird controls...Naturally it, too, was a Carroll Shelby creation.

Not really into cars so much, but that 427 Cobra was like nothing before or since.


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Post subject: Re: A few questions from a newbie, if you don't mind
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:12 pm
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Yanktar wrote:
My cousin had the crazy car: A '66 or '67 Sunbeam Tiger--Looked like an Alpine with a Ford 260cubic inch V-8 jammed into it. American muscle engine with English weird controls...Naturally it, too, was a Carroll Shelby creation.

Not really into cars so much, but that 427 Cobra was like nothing before or since.


Were I inclined to go off topic, I would love to talk about cars and can offer a ton of info on these gems... the 427 Shelby AC Cobra being one (I have an original issue of the November, 1965 Car and Driver which road tested this car, along with the L72 427 Corvette). If you would like to start another thread in a different forum for this topic, I would certainly be happy to participate.


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Post subject: Re: A few questions from a newbie, if you don't mind
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:57 am
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I went by the Guitar Center that I mentioned was around 25 miles from my house this morning. They didn't have any Classic or re-issue Jags or JM's but I did get some info. Then I went back to the guitar store that is two miles from my house and handled the re-issue Jaguar and a few MIM Strats just to get a feel. All had a nice action to them with a nice "natural" neck feel. I was able to determine that the shorter scale length and 22-fret Jaguar enabled me to better compensate from my reduced finger spread. This is a strong consideration for me.


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Post subject: Re: A few questions from a newbie, if you don't mind
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:14 pm
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On the next Guitar store run check out the Ibanez semi-acoustic Artcore series. The neck is similar to the Jazzmaster, and while much lighter, the body size is close.

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Post subject: Re: A few questions from a newbie, if you don't mind
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:44 am
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John.E wrote:
On the next Guitar store run check out the Ibanez semi-acoustic Artcore series. The neck is similar to the Jazzmaster, and while much lighter, the body size is close.

Cheers,
John.E


At the second store I visited yesterday, the one which is close to my house, I handled several Mexican Stratocasters, one which was a Classic Player series (don't recall it it was a 50's or 60's version) and I have to admit, the neck felt really quite good. This is a 25.5" scale like the Jazzmaster. The only thing was the fact that I could not quite get the fret spread with my fingers like I was able to do with the re-issue Jaguar they had. So the 24" scale seems to suit me in that regard better.

I'm not at all familiar with Ibanez guitars but they sound really nice... especially for jazz or maybe blues, but I don't remember ever seeing one. I just have a strong fondness for Fender guitars, the sound which is so unique to them and their looks. If I was of a mind to begin a collection of guitars, I know there would be some other brands in the mix just because of the uniqueness with them. But that is not in my plans... at least for the foreseeable future.

The fact that I was able to mess with the re-issue Jag and a few Strats yesterday told me a lot when viewed in light of my recent research and you folks here on this thread. I was able to focus on specifics to get answers to my concerns and left feeling a bit more confident with taking a decision before long. The shorter scale length of the Jaguar agrees better with my left hand's ability to work the fretboard and the larger fret size of the MIM models was fine and was not an encumberance (I was concerned whether or not this would increase required finger pressure as I lean towards a softer action).

Next stop.... amps. Been doing research there and the whole world has changed since my 1964 Super Reverb.


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Post subject: Re: A few questions from a newbie, if you don't mind
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:59 am
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Next stop.... amps. Been doing research there and the whole world has changed since my 1964 Super Reverb.


And not altogether for the better......

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Post subject: Re: A few questions from a newbie, if you don't mind
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:51 am
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SouthernBoyVA wrote:
Next stop.... amps. Been doing research there and the whole world has changed since my 1964 Super Reverb.


And not altogether for the better......

:evil:

Arjay


I have seen some comments on that.

Amps are more of a challenge than picking a guitar it seems. There are some I have looked at which might do fine for my purposes (I am not going to be joining a band or doing serious jam sessions I'm sure). My '64 Super Reverb was nice in that it was solid, handled mic and guitar inputs fine. Plus it had a decent reverb with vibrato which was controlled by a foot switch for either separate or combined effects. I would like to have that capability again. I have been looking at the Super Champ CD series and the Mustang series but am more than open to hear from you folks.


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Post subject: Re: A few questions from a newbie, if you don't mind
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:54 pm
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Are you playing for you or performing? If just for you a 10 or 15 watt amp may be all you need. Even in small spaces the small amp may be enough. Plus it's easy to move and inexpensive. My friend's been playing 30 years and for most gigs he can put his guitar on his back in a gig bag and carry everything else in his hands.

"No thanks" to the muscle car thread...I'm just not into that kind of car. Somehow, "Zero-to-No License" has lost it's appeal. :lol:


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Post subject: Re: A few questions from a newbie, if you don't mind
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:29 pm
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Yanktar wrote:
Are you playing for you or performing? If just for you a 10 or 15 watt amp may be all you need. Even in small spaces the small amp may be enough. Plus it's easy to move and inexpensive. My friend's been playing 30 years and for most gigs he can put his guitar on his back in a gig bag and carry everything else in his hands.

"No thanks" to the muscle car thread...I'm just not into that kind of car. Somehow, "Zero-to-No License" has lost it's appeal. :lol:


It's just me. I haven't played in a band in nearly 46 years. I am just getting back into messing around with a guitar and man let me tell you.... it's almost like starting over. Mind knows what it wants but the fingers and mind don't seem to be on the same wavelength.

As for cars, I'll never out grow that passion. Drag racing is still something I love.


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Post subject: Re: A few questions from a newbie, if you don't mind
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:23 pm
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I picked up a Line6 15 watt that was very reasonable and so far it's been pretty good for $99. I figured if I hated it I'd cut out the electronics and route an old mono Dynaco tube amp and pre-amp through the speaker. No processing, just simple warm tube sound. But no need, so far.

Pure HP doesn't cut it for me. I like my comfort and amenities, and if I can get it with a stick and a clam-shell--and reliability, I'm happy! Now if only BMW made the 335i clam-shell with AWD.....


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Post subject: Re: A few questions from a newbie, if you don't mind
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:28 pm
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Afternoon gentlemen... and ladies if present.

Just an update I feel I owe you good people for your comments, suggestions, and opinions. Early this afternoon, I ordered a Classic Player Jaguar in sunburst and a Super Champ XD amp. So hopefully, all will be well in the state of Virginia with my new "toys". In either case, if I wind up not being pleased somewhere down the road, there is always the trade-in coupled with a different toy. But I am sure I'll be fine with this decision (gotta think positive... right?). Now begins the long road in my attempt to regain some of what I lost long ago.

Thanks again, folks. And, of course, I still very much welcome comments and suggestions.


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Post subject: Re: A few questions from a newbie, if you don't mind
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:11 pm
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Well, sometime within the next week or so we should see some pics? AND a smiling "Southern Boy". :lol: As with all amps, give the speakers a little time to break in before you make up your mind one way or the other.


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