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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:53 am
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Not sure if its a crime, cause I know a few people that love the old relic look from new stock.

But for me personally, I wouldn't spend EXTRA on a road worn car, neither would I on a guitar.

Each to there own I suppose, but its not for me.


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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:31 pm
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I'm always checking out Craigslist. Guitars that are not in new cosmetic condition sit until the seller slashes the price. Road worn, actual or inflected, or just minor imperfections, don't sell well on the used market, nor should they. Anyone can beat up a guitar in an hour or a decade. What you have is a beat up guitar... no plus in that. Would you search out a trashed automobile?


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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:58 pm
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It's funny, but the market will dictate whether RW survives. I personally would never buy one even if discounted. I'd by a Squier first without hesitation.


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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:04 pm
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I never thought that I would buy one either. That is until one day I picked a RW Strat off f the rack at my LGS and played a bit. The best way to describe it is that the first time you wrap your hands around the neck is like slipping into your favorite well worn jeans right after they come out of the dryer. Everything just sort of falls into place. And the Texas special are exceptional to my ears. I went back a few days later and bought a 60's in Olympic white, which IMO looks the least contrived. If you haven't held one in your hands, you wouldn't know what players they are, at least the Strat.

Anyway, I think that with all of the relics coming down in price, they will eventually fall out of favor. If Fender can stay ahead of the curve, they will build the same guitar with the same neck and nitro finish but with much less contrived relicing. I think that in some ways Gibson is a little ahead in their philosophy of lightly reliced.

FWIW, I absolutely love mine. It's definitely the most played of 8 guitars, and if it were stolen tonight, I'd go buy another exactly like it, same model and color.


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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:56 am
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I wouldn't buy a Road Worn or Reliced guitar as they are pretending to be something that they aren't and that's an old guitar that's been through the ravages of being gigged hard for years.I would feel like a poseur if I were to play one.If I were given one I'd have to refinish it to look new as I like to keep all my gutars as close to original as possible that is of course except for those I bought used and had already been gigged for years.

BTW if one was to buy a used Road Worn or Reliced guitar how would he/she know what was original wear/relicing on the guitar or if in fact it had been abused to hell and back?

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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:45 am
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I had to dig up this subject because after reading some of the opinions being shared as they seem so far from mine.

I recently purchased the Cobain Jaguar in all it's beat up glory and I love the way it looks and plays, does that make me a poser? I think not, in fact part of the reason why I choose to gig with the very worn looking Jag over my pristine and shiny 10 Top PRS custom is that whenever I take the PRS out I do feel like a poser!

There's also the fact that when I do use the PRS I feel like I have to baby the thing the whole time, I really don't want to put the first big ding in it because of the fact that it's so beautiful. The Jag on the other hand can take the odd knock without me worrying about it. I feel the same way about cars, I do like having our new car but I was a lot more chilled out about leaving my beat up old one in the car park.

For me going out and playing with a worn guitar is more understated than playing something something shiny and perfect and that suits me down to the ground. I love the fact that it's now possible to buy a pre beat up guitar without having to pay a fortune for a classic 60's one.

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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:22 pm
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I will beat up your guitar for half the price fender charges for beating up your guitar. You just pay shipping both ways. Contact me for details.


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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:41 am
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I think they are poser guitars. If you want to be a real musician then play your instrument and if it wears it wears. Fender will do anything to make a buck so they will gladly charge out the ying yang for a beat up instrument. People will pay good money for image and fender will charge it.


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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:01 am
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The whole road worn Idea puts me in mind of the Bon Jovi & Brian Adams days when new stone washed, pre-faded, pre-ripped jeans were high dollar designer wear.

LOL, The Pete Townshend / Jimi Hendrix road worn guitar series.....Pete smashing 'em and Jimi setting 'em a'blaze.


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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:18 am
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I wouldn't spend thousands on a new geetar that someone had junked to look like an old geetar. It reeks of B/S. A true relic is something that has acquired its wear lovingly and gradually over a number of decades. C'mon Fender - stop this nonsense please!


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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:49 am
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I might as well weigh in on this too:

Yes, I know that for whatever reason(s), there are players who intrinsically do not like the look of nice, new, shiny instruments. Notwithstanding, I think it is a disgrace and a travesty to do that to a perfectly good guitar as it is akin to vandalizing a fine piece of art; and from the factory, no less. The whole idea (although clearly popular) is utterly ludicrous.

I don't understand the mindset of said, "Posers" who, the second they start playing one, announce to the world that the guitar didn't get that way through decades of their playing experiences so whom are they trying to fool?

"Mojo"? Please, give me a friggin' break!

What truly fascinates me the most is that the camp of players who go after these instruments are willing to pay significantly extra for a deliberately desecrated instrument. Like someone said earlier (paraphrased), in terms of resale, how do you determine 'mint' condition of one of these artificial 'train wrecks'? What I find rather humorous too is the fact that these instruments are all identically defaced.

Well, to each his (or her) own. The only reason I'd own one is to flip it to someone who wants to overpay me for a guitar in such condition. Ironically, if I had a guitar which was in similar condition due to it's genuine playing history, it surely would not command nearly as much money for it in spite of the fact that it truly has (so called), "Mojo" (whatever this is supposed to account for).

As always, the above is merely IMO where YMMV.

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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:25 pm
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I guess it's not something for everyone then :)

I wonder how many of those that struggle to understand the attraction of a worn instrument have themselves purchased a pair of stone washed jeans or antiqued furniture without giving it another thought? I know I don't own many pairs of jeans that started out with a perfect navy blue finish.

As somebody said above, each to their own, I personally like the worn look guitars and the pristine ones, theres obviously a big market for both.

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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:26 pm
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There's a big difference in between stone washed jeans and a road worn guitar. A better comparison would be the ripped and holey jeans that were popular in the late '80s (think Def Leppard.) I didn't understand that fad and I don't understand the road worn fad. I like shiny new things and I like them to keep looking that way. I have a couple of guitars with some light damage and dents, but they were formed over time (before I got them) and not artificially induced.


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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:45 pm
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To me ripped jeans are end of life, ready for the bin and I too would not purchase them. You know you can still buy them today, they did not disappear in the 80's :)

Road worn = worn in, just like stone wash jeans. If the guitars came with cracked necks and dodgy electrics then I would agree with you but they don't, they are just made to look worn for people who prefer that look and feel.

Obviously not everyones going to agree here, but it's good to get both perspectives.

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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:54 pm
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If this fad continues, I think it is only fair to charge more for naturally worn guitars. A few dents shouldn't decrease the value. And what if you buy a Road Worn guitar and wear most of the paint off of it and beat it up worse? Is it ruined as a collector's item? Or is it OK because it's a Road Worn. It would make a couple of my guitars worth a little more.


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