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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:49 am
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I don't want one.
I can sand mine by myself if I did.
They look like crap to me.


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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:01 am
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I am not keen on the body look but I haven't played one. There might be some merit to the way it feels. you could always order a neck and put one on your guitar.... I like new myself.


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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:53 am
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We are all victims of marketing... But it seems that some are more than others... :wink:

I can't understand the logic that says "A roadworn/relic is more comfortable playing because it is worn like you've played for years".

No. It is worn like SOMEONE ELSE played it for years.

Everyone is different. Everyone's playing style, hand structure and technique are different.
How am I certain that a particular guitar is worn in the places that I would have worn it by playing it?
I'm not. Because I didn't wear it but someone else did using hardware tools and machines.

Face it people, these guitars are not worn by human behavior. Being played for hours by underage children in a factory in India for 50cents a day wage, would be more truthful and acceptable :lol: (...I'm kidding of course)

And if Fender has found a perfect, universal type of wear that makes every player happy and comfortably playing, then why doesn't she apply that technique to ALL of her instruments? I mean, if something is good then why not use it to all mainstream products?

And what about relicing the body? I could finally accept that wearing the NECK makes it more comfortable (well I don't, but lets say I do). What good does beating up the body of a guitar or artificially rusting the saddles and the pickup pole-pieces? And I don't want to hear things like "Rust makes a good tonal/vintage difference"... :lol:

For me, YES IT'S A CRIME beating up, scratching and wearing a new guitar. Moreover paying more for this.
But it's even more of a crime to pay $3,000+ for a Custom Shop guitar that looks like $h1t...

Don't let me be misunderstood, I have great respect for the custom shop team but I think that they should be spending their skills and talents and (well paid) hours in inventing new tonal variations, experimenting with new materials and making the, willing to pay more, customers, more happy by making instruments that are exceptional to the eye and hand. And by "exceptional to the eye" I don't mean "crappy looking".

Relicing is a new thing as far as I know... I must pay my respects to the wise marketing guy that first thought of it. It really made many fishes take his bait.

It may be like Picasso's paintings. They are great valued to many but for me, that thing with one eye, a horse nose, three hands and a horn, doesn't look like a woman (or art) to me at all....

Forgive my ignorance... :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:30 am
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Ain't it funny that usually the heavy relics are also the best sounding Stratocasters?

I guess opening up the nitro laquer isn't such a bad idea, it seems to change the sound. So why not do it? If that's the best, after all?

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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:28 am
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Amerigo wrote:
Ain't it funny that usually the heavy relics are also the best sounding Stratocasters?


Who says that and on what facts does he/she count on?

Or is it like "A friend of mine has a friend who has a friend and who is awesome player, I tell you, and he has 60 guitars and was a schoolmate of slash and he said that his relic guitars have the best sound...".

Sorry, but I'm really skeptic when it comes to this kind of absoluteness on sound quality.

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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:56 am
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How can removal of laquer improve your sound? It goes from the strings almost straight into the pickups. I'm no professional by any means, it just sounds like superstition to me. Or perhaps for some it works as a good luck charm or anything like that.

I am not a fan of these guitars. Aside from impressions you might make (or not), I prefer my guitars with a decent finish.


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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:59 pm
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alwaysdancing wrote:
One of the best things about Fenders is getting a standard strat/tele/jag/jazzmaster, and modifying it to be yours, just like the American muscle car tradition.


Great statement, but how many people understand the value of modifying something to fit your needs? Take a look at other markets, new "muscle cars", motorcycles, and other classic americana items. Many manufacturers offer "custom or vintage looking" from the factory. And people are buying it. Seems to me like it is just another industry taking advantage of the greed for instant gratification. Everybody wants to be cool right now, but respect must be earned; always has been and always will need to be.

My new guitars will get some dings, scratches, and will show their age in one way or another. By the time they do, I hope to have earned the chops, as well as the look.

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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:32 pm
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Give this topic a break, you like ,you buy,you dont like, you dont buy,incredibly simple,you want to buy green grapes even if your pal tells you they ,re ugly then buy the green grapes,its just a frekin guitar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:31 pm
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A crime it may not be....But a way to stir things up around here is definitely is.... :lol: :lol: I think the reason why is it's been done like a dinner so often...... :lol: :lol: Has made for some interesting reading though in other threads!!! I wanna see a road kill model!!!! Squashed dead smell bird all over it!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:38 pm
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I myself do not like how they look, but i do like how they sound. Iv played a RW HSS strat at guitar center with a semore duncan in the bridge and it sounded great!!!! I wish they had that strat without the relic...

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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:33 pm
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Its honestly beter to show off how much you have played by a real guitar that has been thrown in and out of a van, played on stage with, or taken around the world with rather than have sombody beet it up in a day foryou. I totally agree with the talk about poseurs here :D but yes thay do sound good.

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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:33 am
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Let me just say that I'm not going to pay for someone else to wreck my guitar. And when I meet someone that did I will most definitely call them a poser. If you want your guitar to look like you've played it a lot and abused it then play it a lot and abuse it.


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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:14 am
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I don't mind "road worn" stuff, but I can do a pretty good job of that myself. IMO, it kinda takes away from making a guitar "yours". Remember the first ding you put on your brand new axe? It's rather painful, but you get over it and the ones that follow aren't so bad. To me, that's all part of making a guitar special and personal.


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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:35 am
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It's just plain dumb in my opinion. I don't pay extra for a road worn car.


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Post subject: Re: Is road worn a crime!?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:05 am
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They are not for me...and yes it is a crime...my 82 57 Strat reissue has some wear on the fretboard but it was put there my my years of playing it...

...but think about it from a stand point of even if it is new, how do you know some kid hasn't dinged it up while playing it in the store? So from the stores perspective they can let the kids have some fun and the buyer will never know if that ding or scratch is original...ow thinking about that is starting to make my head hurt...

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