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Post subject: The jaguar or mustang?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:37 pm
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I've been reading alot of articles and reviews on the jaguar and mustang, they both sound awesome. But, i have no clue what to get first. I like grunge, so I'm heading towards the mustang at the moment, but then if i do get that I'll feel bad for not picking the jaguar. And if i get the jaguar I'll feel bad for not getting the mustang.
Whitch should it be :?:


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what kind of music you like doesn't necessarily dictate what kind of guitar you should buy.

have you picked up either one? the necks are pretty close to the same, so it's the body shape that's going to be indicative of your choice on this one.

the only thing i can recommend is that you play them. do you prefer a contoured body or not?

mustang 65RI's are slabs, so no contours. all jags are contoured.

both have fairly similar pickup setups/switching, so they're going to sound the same under your "grunge" guise.

go play them, we can't tell you what you'll like.

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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:23 pm
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hotrodperlmutter wrote:
what kind of music you like doesn't necessarily dictate what kind of guitar you should buy.

have you picked up either one? the necks are pretty close to the same, so it's the body shape that's going to be indicative of your choice on this one.

the only thing i can recommend is that you play them. do you prefer a contoured body or not?

mustang 65RI's are slabs, so no contours. all jags are contoured.

both have fairly similar pickup setups/switching, so they're going to sound the same under your "grunge" guise.

go play them, we can't tell you what you'll like.


Its a shame that i cant play them, none of the guitar store's near me have them. I like both of them, contour and slab, its gonna be a hard choice.

....I was just asking for your advice thats all :)


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my advice is to play them, if possible. they're both really close when you break it down. both single coils, both b width, 24" scale necks, similar size bodies, although the jag is a bit longer and wider.

i love my jaguar, and i wouldn't trade it for most things. however, mustangs are great as well. the only thing to keep in mind is the trem units on mustangs are quite finicky unless set up well. my jag trem is lockable, and works well.

good luck, but ultimately, you're going to love either one.

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hotrodperlmutter wrote:
my advice is to play them, if possible. they're both really close when you break it down. both single coils, both b width, 24" scale necks, similar size bodies, although the jag is a bit longer and wider.

i love my jaguar, and i wouldn't trade it for most things. however, mustangs are great as well. the only thing to keep in mind is the trem units on mustangs are quite finicky unless set up well. my jag trem is lockable, and works well.

good luck, but ultimately, you're going to love either one.


I've read the specs, there pretty much the same yes.

REally? Ive read an article on the mustang and it said the trem unit is lockable. I'll have to look into that..

Anyway, thanks for you advice, i'll keep that in mind


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Food for thought: The Mustang was designed as a student model instrument whereas the Jaguar was designed as an accomplished player's instrument. As such, they are totally different entities. YMMV.

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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:09 pm
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I'm guessing that you got grunge connected to those guitars because Kurt Cobain played them. Kurt used both, but I heard that his mustang was personalized to be more like a Jaguar.

kurtsequipment.com lists his stuff if you want to look. Also musicians friend is selling a Kurt Cobain Jaguar for a pretty good price at http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/prod ... sku=584100

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I'm guessing that you got grunge connected to those guitars because Kurt Cobain played them. Kurt used both, but I heard that his mustang was personalized to be more like a Jaguar.

kurtsequipment.com lists his stuff if you want to look. Also musicians friend is selling a Kurt Cobain Jaguar for a pretty good price at http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/prod ... sku=584100

Yeah, thats why I want either one, cause kurt said that they distort really well. I'll have a look at kurtsequipment.com, see what it says.

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Jaguar is a pretty serious guitar to get thee hang of. I love them to death, but the switching circuits and choke are a little different than you would normally be used to or what it sounds like you want.

I would reccommend a mustang.

Kurt had most of what makes a Jaguar a Jaguar removed. He replaced the sliders with toggles and covered the switches up with tape.

That said the Jaguar H-H special with the dragsters #$@*&!% screams, it is #$@*&!% legendary.

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As the owner of both I can say that the Jag has a fuller sound and because it's larger and heavier a lot more sustain.They both have their merits but I'd go for the Jag first.

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Post subject: Buy a Mustang? or a Jag?
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:47 pm
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Riley, I can relate to your needing solid info to make a good decision, and also to your paralysis of analysis. Here's seven things that come to mind that may be helpful. I hope so, but I'm relatively new to electric guitars and still learning a lot of the technical stuff.

First, you need to check out the internet forum jag-stang.com for detailed info on the modified Mustang Kurt Cobain played. You'll also find tons of information on Mustangs there.

Second, I have a 1965 Mustang, pre-CBS, and I swear by it. Don't believe the myths or more severe criticisms you hear. Individual guitars will each have their flaws, especially guitars that have been working axes for 45 years. My Mustang's trem happens to be stable and does not de-tune my strings. But if you want to lock your Mustang's trem, you gotta have it done custom; it does not have a lock feature built in. My '65 is very light and slim; later Mustangs are thicker and heavier though no Mustangs are as heavy as a Les Paul. I understand reissue (RI) Mustangs are pretty good too. My Mustang has this flaw: my tuners do slip sometimes, but not too badly.

Fourth, I was told my old pickups would be "weak". But now that I know how to use my amp and guitar controls, I get a great range of tones from these old pups...from strong clean to "woman tone" to honk to spank, and lots of sustain too. With no hum, surprisingly.

Fifth, I took my Mustang in to be Plek'd and the luthier told me the neck, frets, nut and overall set-up was so good that it would be a waste of money to plek it. He could have had my $200 and not said a word, but my Mustang's a great axe and he was honest (Vince and Aaron at Crossroads Guitars, cool shop just outside Washington, D.C.).

Sixth, I'm not saying Mustangs are better than Jags. I am saying Mustangs are very good guitars in general. Mustang was an advanced student model built with the same hands-on craftsmanship as the high-end Fenders of the day (in 1966 the hand-built quality began to decline under CBS ownership and eventually Leo Fender left to form G&L Guitar Company). With either Fender model there will be better guitars and not so good ones.

Seventh, and very important, travel to where you can play as many guitars as you can. It will be worth a weekend in the big city to visit every guitar shop there is. Make a list of the qualities you want in your guitar...action, weight-lightness, neck shape, body size, shape of the body, tremolo, price, resale value, tuners, etc. Then make a grid and rate each guitar you play 1 to 5 on each criterion. After that weekend of "field research", total the scores for each guitar. Then you'll have a much better idea what you want.

The big caution is this: if you're not very experienced playing and buying guitars, you don't know what you do not know. So it's wise not to make a decision until you've played lots of the both models and asking tons of questions.

And if you don't like what you end up buying, you can sell it and get something else. That's research, too.

Doug in Atlanta


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Post subject: Re: Buy a Mustang? or a Jag?
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:04 pm
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ppr_edp@bellsouth.net wrote:
Riley, I can relate to your needing solid info to make a good decision, and also to your paralysis of analysis. Here's what's worked for me, friend...

First, you need to check out the internet forum jag-stang.com for detailed info on the modified Mustang Kurt Cobain played. You'll also find tons of information on Mustangs there.

Second, I have a 1965 Mustang, pre-CBS, and I swear by it. Don't believe the myths or more severe criticisms you hear. Individual guitars will each have their flaws, especially guitars that have been working axes for 45 years. My Mustang's trem happens to be stable and does not de-tune my strings. But if you want to lock your Mustang's trem, you gotta have it done custom; it does not have a lock feature built in. My '65 is very light and slim; later Mustangs are thicker and heavier though no Mustangs are as heavy as a Les Paul. I understand reissue (RI) Mustangs are pretty good too. My Mustang has this flaw: my tuners do slip sometimes, but not too badly.

Fourth, I was told my old pickups would be "weak". But now that I know how to use my amp and guitar controls, I get a great range of tones from these old pups...from strong clean to "woman tone" to honk to spank, and lots of sustain too. With no hum, surprisingly.

Fifth, I took my Mustang in to be Plek'd and the luthier told me the neck, frets, nut and overall set-up was so good that it would be a waste of money to plek it...! He could have had my $200 and not said a word, but my Mustang's a great axe and he was honest.

Sixth, I'm not saying Mustangs are better than Jags. I am saying Mustangs are very good guitars in general. Mustang was an advanced student model built with the same hands-on craftsmanship as the high-end Fenders of the day (in 1966 the hand-built quality began to decline under CBS ownership and eventually Leo Fender left to form G&L Guitar Company). With either Fender model there will be better guitars and not so good ones.

Seventh, and very important, travel to where you can play as many guitars as you can. It will be worth a weekend in the big city to visit every guitar shop there is. Make a list of the qualities you want in your guitar...action, weight-lightness, neck shape, body size, shape of the body, tremolo, price, resale value, tuners, etc. Then make a grid and rate each guitar you play 1 to 5 on each criterion. After that weekend of "field research", total the scores for each guitar. Then you'll have much better idea what you want.

The big caution is this: if you're not very experienced playing and buying guitars, you don't know what you do not know. So do not make a decision without playing lots of guitars and asking tons of questions.

And if you don't like what you end up buying, you can sell it and get something else. That's research, too.

Doug in Atlanta

thanks man, I've been doing tons of research on both of the guitars, so far I'm leaning towards the jaguar.
I've played the mustang at a guitar store, very cool, but now I've gotta find a jaguar.
Thanks for all the info, I'll have a look at that web site later.

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Martian is right - you're comparing apples to oranges. Having said that, I have a '65 re-issue Mustang, and I absolutely love it. It is right behind my Tele's and above my Strat's when I reach for something to mess around with.

I like the Jag too. A new Jag is on my short list for my next purchase and regardless, I will have one soon.

I don't think you can go wrong either way - I like apples AND oranges! :D

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Martian wrote:
Food for thought: The Mustang was designed as a student model instrument whereas the Jaguar was designed as an accomplished player's instrument. As such, they are totally different entities. YMMV.


Yeah the Jag cost more, but my mileage does vary.

My Mustang has lasted for years, been banged around, and still works great.

Out of all my guitars (Outside the one I bought about 14 months ago), it's needed the least tweaking and set up.


The same may be true though if I had a Jag, but I love the Mustang vibrato.
And I love the out of phase setting.

But you have to decide which one will work best for your hands, your ears, and your music.

Get the one that fits those the best, and then start saving for the other one.

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Riley, just noticed you have a Fender Frontman 15. I'm travelling a lot for work and sometimes bring my guitar. Yesterday I bought a Fender Frontman 10...it fits in my suitcase, is only about 8 pounds, and sounds great...better than the tiny battery-powered amps, anyway.

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