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Post subject: Jazzmaster case ??
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:42 pm
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What case does the AVRI Jazzmaster come with? The Fender website says "brown hardshell case" but I don't know what kind that really is. Is there a pic anywhere?


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Personal experience goes back more than a decade, but it was rectangular, black Tolex-covered hardshell with nice padding and locks.

Very nice case.


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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:19 pm
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Thanks. Somehow I was under the impression that it would be a Tweed case, since my AVRI '62 strat came with one. I believe it is in fact the Tolex case in brown, after doing some more hunting on the web site.


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Here is a rundown on cases from :
http://zeus.lunarpages.com/~jimshi2/jaz ... jazzma.htm

Case details

Cases for these guitars run along the same rules as other Fender guitars made the same years. I will do a general run down of the styles. Before that I would like to mention that it is very common to have an inappropriate case that has been with your guitar maybe its entire life. The reason this is possible is mainly because of music stores. These guitars were very popular in the 1960's and music stores had them coming and going. If a guitar sat for any length of time, when it finally sold they would just go out back and grab a case that fit, not caring if the color changed (in fact they may even make the deal sound better telling the customer they are getting one of the hot off the line new case colors). When sold used, a store would often have several of these guitars hanging when nobody cared for them. The employee would go out back and again grab whatever fit. This is how tweeds end up with later guitars and 59's end up with black cases. There was also a cheap gig bag made out of tolex offered. Many people likely upgraded to a real case after a while making the case color wrong for the era of the guitar.

The basic rundown of specs goes like this

1958-fall1959 Tweed Style with Gold interior. These have gold hardware as well.

1959-1960 Brown tolex, gold interior, gold hardware, center latch under handle

1961-1963 Brown tolex. This era has lots of changes that overlap each other. Chrome Cheney latches (what we see today on reissues) begin, interior changes to orange, center latch moves out from under the handle.

1963-mid 64 White Tolex, orange interior Black ends. It appears that some dark green ends appear on some cases.

1964-5 Black Tolex, orange interior

Late 1965-1967 Black Tolex, orange interior, Fender logo added. These have the logo sitting farther away from the edge than any other year or reissue. No tail on the logo

1967-1971- Black Tolex, Fender logo gains a tail. Orange lined

1972-to the end The logo loses the tail again. The interior varies quite a bit too. Some range from bright orange short piled to old style golden orange with medium pile. I have seen at least 3 different linings used in the different cases, so expect any variation here.


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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:36 am
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Thanks sewkid. Since I first made this post I now own the guitar in question. It's a brown tolex case and very nice. If only music stores would store them a little better. Mine had a big tear in the Tolex so they are ordering me a replacement.


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I have a tweed case I'm trying to ID. I doubt I'm lucky enough for it to be original. Anyone willing to help me ID it?

It has Cheney latches. Were these used on originals or just reissues?

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Post subject: Re: Jazzmaster case ??
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:13 pm
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Hope you find what your looking for...

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sewkid wrote:
Here is a rundown on cases from :
http://zeus.lunarpages.com/~jimshi2/jaz ... jazzma.htm

Case details

Cases for these guitars run along the same rules as other Fender guitars made the same years. I will do a general run down of the styles. Before that I would like to mention that it is very common to have an inappropriate case that has been with your guitar maybe its entire life. The reason this is possible is mainly because of music stores. These guitars were very popular in the 1960's and music stores had them coming and going. If a guitar sat for any length of time, when it finally sold they would just go out back and grab a case that fit, not caring if the color changed (in fact they may even make the deal sound better telling the customer they are getting one of the hot off the line new case colors). When sold used, a store would often have several of these guitars hanging when nobody cared for them. The employee would go out back and again grab whatever fit. This is how tweeds end up with later guitars and 59's end up with black cases. There was also a cheap gig bag made out of tolex offered. Many people likely upgraded to a real case after a while making the case color wrong for the era of the guitar.

The basic rundown of specs goes like this

1958-fall1959 Tweed Style with Gold interior. These have gold hardware as well.

1959-1960 Brown tolex, gold interior, gold hardware, center latch under handle

1961-1963 Brown tolex. This era has lots of changes that overlap each other. Chrome Cheney latches (what we see today on reissues) begin, interior changes to orange, center latch moves out from under the handle.

1963-mid 64 White Tolex, orange interior Black ends. It appears that some dark green ends appear on some cases.

1964-5 Black Tolex, orange interior

Late 1965-1967 Black Tolex, orange interior, Fender logo added. These have the logo sitting farther away from the edge than any other year or reissue. No tail on the logo

1967-1971- Black Tolex, Fender logo gains a tail. Orange lined

1972-to the end The logo loses the tail again. The interior varies quite a bit too. Some range from bright orange short piled to old style golden orange with medium pile. I have seen at least 3 different linings used in the different cases, so expect any variation here.


Spot on accurate, Sewkid!

I'd just add that the Victoria Luggage cases prior to late '56 or early '57 were of the "center pouch" variety. The really early '55 examples used a "crystal" handle that featured a Lucite insert rather than the later composite construction.

The first tailless amp logos added to the lid in '65 were plastic.

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