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Post subject: String Trees?
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:18 am
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Do I need a second string tree for #'s 3 & 4? My string break angle on 4 is quite high and when I pluck it open it has a wah-wah sound and breaks up right away. Only does it open, I have fender locking tuners that have a graduated height, 1,2,3- lower and 4,5,6 higher. I still use the tree on 1 and 2 and have no problems with them. Any suggestions will help!

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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:03 am
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Look to me a nut adjustment , did you show your guitar to a qualified luthier ?


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Post subject: Re: String Trees?
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:00 am
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No, you shouldn't need a second string tree, but it won't hurt to add one either.

With locking tuners, make sure you don't wind the string multiple times around the peg as with standard tuners. Anything more than half a revolution for the lowest tuning you use is too much.

And make sure the hex nut for the machine is tightened when you change strings. The tuner itself being loose can cause symptoms like what you're experiencing.

Using too thin strings for the nut filing can also cause problems. Especially for old guitars that were cut for a wound third, and without a string tree for it, there's nothing that holds it down either, so it can rattle in the too big groove. But also, if you or a previous owner has tried thicker strings, the groove might have dug itself bigger, and when going back to thin strings, you may have a nut issue.


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Post subject: Re: String Trees?
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:16 am
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My guitar is brand new and this is the second set of strings on it, all 9's and I think it's the break angle but am not sure. The string is wound less than 1/2 turn on each tuner. I guess the next step is a proper setup and check-up.

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Post subject: Re: String Trees?
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:24 am
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pfflyer55 wrote:
I guess the next step is a proper setup and check-up.


Brand new guitar ! Yes a proper set up by a qualified luthier if you want a good job


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Post subject: Re: String Trees?
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:13 am
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I am considering taking it to the Fender repair center in Ontario Ca. to have it assessed. I know one of the lead consultants there.

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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:28 am
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stratele52 wrote:
Look to me a nut adjustment , did you show your guitar to a qualified luthier ?


It was the nut, it needed to be filed cause the string was binding in the nut. Just a few runs through it and wah-lah. He adjusted the saddle height for the #6 string a bit and otherwise she was back to perfect and sounding great.

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Post subject: Re: String Trees?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:32 am
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pfflyer55 wrote:
stratele52 wrote:
Look to me a nut adjustment , did you show your guitar to a qualified luthier ?


It was the nut, it needed to be filed cause the string was binding in the nut. Just a few runs through it and wah-lah. He adjusted the saddle height for the #6 string a bit and otherwise she was back to perfect and sounding great.


The nut , that is what I write


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Post subject: Re: String Trees?
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:06 am
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stratele52 wrote:
pfflyer55 wrote:
stratele52 wrote:
Look to me a nut adjustment , did you show your guitar to a qualified luthier ?


It was the nut, it needed to be filed cause the string was binding in the nut. Just a few runs through it and wah-lah. He adjusted the saddle height for the #6 string a bit and otherwise she was back to perfect and sounding great.


The nut , that is what I write



You were right, it was the nut and it was just a tad off. Now it's back to perfect as possible. No extra tree needed!

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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:09 am
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Most of the time, guitar nut is not set for the best result , it is set for a average. A qualified luthier can make new guitar more enjoyable and easy to play play with a complete set-up .

Many people think because guitar is new , the guitar do not need se up .


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Post subject: Re: String Trees?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:48 am
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I little off topic, but just wanted to say I have a Strat Deluxe Powerhouse (Graffiti Yellow) that has two roller string trees. I had a buzz, when unplugged, that I couldn't for the life of me pin down until about a year later I oiled the roller on the trees. That took care of the buzz. Still can't figure out how that caused, and cured the problem.


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Post subject: Re: String Trees?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:53 am
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Most of the time buzz coming from the wrong neck bow , a trust rod adjustment ...

Do a complete tune up from a qualified luthier


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Post subject: Re: String Trees?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:38 pm
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Thanks, I'll check the bow, truss rod again. My recall is that it is right in spec. with my other Strats, but who knows, they are all unique in their own way.


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Post subject: Re: String Trees?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:43 pm
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A complete set-up by a qualified person will tell what is the issue and will fix it .


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