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Post subject: For you Tele History Buffs.
Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 1:20 pm
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While in GC today, I was looking at a Tele special edition deluxe with an Ash body in butterscotch blonde. What confused me was the reversed control arrangement. The sales guy mentioned it was a copy of a classic, but didn't know the year. I'm stumped. I've done a little research on this and have come up blank. Does anyone know when Fender issued a Tele with the reversed controls as shown in the link below? One of the reviewers on the GC website mentions it's a '52 reissue. Is he correct?

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender-Spec ... rce=4XBACR

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Post subject: Re: For you Tele History Buffs.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 1:09 am
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With 9.5 " neck radius , it can't be '52 a reissue.
Hot pickups ; not a '52 reissue

Wich tele is it ? Advertise said Fender Special Edition :lol:


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Post subject: Re: For you Tele History Buffs.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 2:16 am
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Fender's FSR-models have always been a PIA to track. The sticker on the back of the headstock usually says "Special Edition", so the shops confuse things even more with the marketing names.

You might find that particular guitarcenter model mentioned somewhere on these 20 tdpri pages

Someone described FSR's in general to be "souped up MIM Standards with different pickups", which in this case seems to check out (just compare Standard Tele specs to the specs on the link).
But: check the guitar yourself, see if you like it and if you feel the price is right. It ain't a reissue model, and especially not an AVRI, but it might still be a very good guitar.


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Post subject: Re: For you Tele History Buffs.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 4:41 pm
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Back in the '90s, Fender came out with something like a Nashville Telecaster with controls that were reversed like that. It had 2 Strat style, and 1 Tele style pickups. I bought one, but didn't like it very much. The reverse controls were wierd to me. I tried to turn the controls around, but found out that the wires were too short, and I didn't have the understanding of how to rewire the guitar at the time.

I ended up selling it for a Clapton Strat.


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Post subject: Re: For you Tele History Buffs.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 10:53 pm
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The reverse control plate has been stock in some rare MIJ Tele models, also in the MIM Blacktop HH, and in the Squier Vintage Modified SSH - all models now discontinued.
(And BTW: the fenderjapan.co.jp has been diminished from a great source of MIJ guitar knowledge to just a copy of the International F-site... Blah.)

The basic idea (stating the obvious...) is to bring the vol knob right below your pinky finger, for easier vol swells, "vol-wah-wah" etc.
This is quite a popular and a relatively easy mod; usually it requires a little soldering (longer wires) and a bit of dremeling (to give room for the switch in the cavity).


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Post subject: Re: For you Tele History Buffs.
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 2:10 am
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Control plate is easy to reverse if you don't like it , just 2 screw , no solder or desolder wiring , nothing .


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Post subject: Re: For you Tele History Buffs.
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 6:12 am
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Hmm... I've done the mod, and I disagree - of course, you may just have been luckier than me. :mrgreen:

On at least some Teles the wires aren't long enough for reversing, if you want to switch the tone and vol pots places, too & flip the switch. (On a normal Tele control plate, it's switch-vol-tone, on a reversed one the usual order is vol-tone-switch, and the switch is turned...)

And, I've had to make room for the switch on one Tele; the cavity bottom was not level...


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Post subject: Re: For you Tele History Buffs.
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 7:05 am
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stratele52 wrote:
Control plate is easy to reverse if you don't like it , just 2 screw , no solder or desolder wiring , nothing .


I thought that as well and I tried to on my own Tele with this set up, but couldn't due to the length of wired used for each pickup and the pots. The owner would need to unsolder the wiring and then re-solder everything.


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Post subject: Re: For you Tele History Buffs.
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 7:36 am
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paris wrote:
stratele52 wrote:
Control plate is easy to reverse if you don't like it , just 2 screw , no solder or desolder wiring , nothing .


I thought that as well and I tried to on my own Tele with this set up, but couldn't due to the length of wired used for each pickup and the pots. The owner would need to unsolder the wiring and then re-solder everything.


Wires are too short ? :(


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Post subject: Re: For you Tele History Buffs.
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 5:35 pm
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stratele52 wrote:
paris wrote:
stratele52 wrote:
Control plate is easy to reverse if you don't like it , just 2 screw , no solder or desolder wiring , nothing .


I thought that as well and I tried to on my own Tele with this set up, but couldn't due to the length of wired used for each pickup and the pots. The owner would need to unsolder the wiring and then re-solder everything.


Wires are too short ? :(


Not the end of the world, and can be fixed. Also, this guitar may be different.


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Post subject: Re: For you Tele History Buffs.
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 2:25 am
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jmattis wrote:
The reverse control plate has been stock in some rare MIJ Tele models, also in the MIM Blacktop HH, and in the Squier Vintage Modified SSH - all models now discontinued.
(And BTW: the fenderjapan.co.jp has been diminished from a great source of MIJ guitar knowledge to just a copy of the International F-site... Blah.)

The basic idea (stating the obvious...) is to bring the vol knob right below your pinky finger, for easier vol swells, "vol-wah-wah" etc.



This is quite a popular and a relatively easy mod; usually it requires a little soldering (longer wires) and a bit of dremeling (to give room for the switch in the cavity).


That Squier was my 1st Tele. SSH with Duncans. Gave it to my son when I got my MIM. Gonna miss it when he moves out - I like to steal it back now and then. I was told that the control plate was reversed because people were hitting the switch on accident and changing positions when reaching for the volume knob. Since was first Tele I didn't have to get used to it being backwards and was nice having the volume right below the pinky. Didn't have any problem switching to normal when I got my MIM though but thinking that going from normal to reversed might have gone different. Haven't accidentally hit the switch while reaching for the volume either come to think of it. There used to be a company on EBay(maybe still is?) that was buying new Amer Standards, upgrading the parts, redoing the neck to where they said was better than Custom Shop, and reselling them for about Custom Shop prices. They were also reversing the plate "As an improvement". My custom Tele has no control plate or switch - just 3 split knobs to control volume/tone for the neck, bridge, and piezo pickups.


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