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Post subject: Is this a genuine '57 Tele?
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:04 pm
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back of plate has no. 17603. don't know anything else about the guitar. relic'd? or parts? thanks for your help in advance.

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Post subject: Re: Is this a genuine '57 Tele?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:00 am
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From 1950 up to mid-1959, Telecaster guitars were exclusively fitted with a fretted one-piece maple neck (Maple Neck hereafter) without a separate fingerboard.

A. R. Duchossoir, The Fender Telecaster, The Detailed Story; page 50.

If I may suggest, that book could be a valuable help.


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Post subject: Re: Is this a genuine '57 Tele?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:59 am
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Picture of pots will say if it is modern pots or original 1957 . Just 2 screws to remove .....


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Post subject: Re: Is this a genuine '57 Tele?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 8:32 am
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jmattis is correct. The rosewood board didn't appear until mid '59, so the serial number suggesting made in '57 is a bit of a concern. The back of the neck looks sanded, not genuine wear...and it looks very recently sanded. A '57 neck with worn away finish would look very dirty in comparison.
Relic? Well the only Fender relics, out of the factory are the MIM Road worns, or the better known Custom Shop relics. In both cases there are decals on the headstock to prove their origin, and this has none of that.
My guess, and gut feeling, is that this is a partscaster that has a '57 serial number on the plate, and has been relic'd to try and make it look that age!
It may be a perfectly good guitar provided that it comes at a partscaster price, but if there's an attempt to get '57 money for it, then no...


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Post subject: Re: Is this a genuine '57 Tele?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:27 am
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On the guitar above, I'd pass regardless of the price. If the question is "original 1957 or not", and the first glance tells it sure ain't, who knows what the parts are, and what scam lies behind.

But, to make the world a little happier, there are 57's for every budget;
garysguitars sells one for 29900$, but if one can't afford that there is
netinstruments, where you can get an acoustic 1957 Tele for just 500£ - and they say it's "100% original", and suits COLECTORS. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Is this a genuine '57 Tele?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:53 pm
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If you don’t know about what to look for when disassembling a guitar to authenticate it, than you had better stick to with a reputable vintage dealer.


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Post subject: Re: Is this a genuine '57 Tele?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:05 pm
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[quote="jmattis"]On the guitar above, I'd pass regardless of the price. If the question is "original 1957 or not", and the first glance tells it sure ain't, who knows what the parts are, and what scam lies behind.

But, to make the world a little happier, there are 57's for every budget;
garysguitars sells one for 29900$

hasn't the guitar above in the link (garysguitars) been relic'd?


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Post subject: Re: Is this a genuine '57 Tele?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:32 am
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But, to make the world a little happier, there are 57's for every budget;
garysguitars sells one for 29900$

hasn't the guitar above in the link (garysguitars) been relic'd?[/quote]

No, not "relic'd" in the sense that is used to describe new made to look old. That is 58 years of playing wear. As Gary states, it is a very clean example.


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Post subject: Re: Is this a genuine '57 Tele?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:38 am
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And to make things as clear as possible: the other Tele I linked (netinstruments) is not a real Fender Telecaster made in 1957.


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Post subject: Re: Is this a genuine '57 Tele?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:15 pm
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Is this a genuine '57 Tele?


No!


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Post subject: Re: Is this a genuine '57 Tele?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:38 pm
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Is this a genuine '57 Tele?


No!


And another, "No".

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Post subject: Re: Is this a genuine '57 Tele?
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:51 am
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Hope he didnt pay for a 1957, you can buy plates with any number you want for $20, and everything else is just as easy to fake.


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Post subject: Re: Is this a genuine '57 Tele?
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:22 am
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There are a lot of scam artists in the antique business no matter what the object, and it appears to me that someone had a go making this look like the genuine artical. To me the neck is a giveaway. If that was genuine wear on the neck, there would be smooth transitions between what is worn and what isn't. In this case there are uneven and jagged areas where the two areas meet. My advice, for what its worth, is to seek out a reputable appraising company that specializes in guitars. If it is a '57, it will be worth a lot of jingle.

I had a blonde '57 Tele with a maple neck a long time ago back in the sixties, and every time a subject pertaining to a '57 comes up in conversation I start going through all the what-ifs :cry: . Back in those days we had no idea that a guitar would be worth a small fortune years down the road.

I hope you eventually come to the bottom of it, but I have to agree with the others in saying I doubt its genuine.

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Post subject: Re: Is this a genuine '57 Tele?
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:15 am
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The first thing I noticed was the neck. Appears to be a newer sanded neck, no other wear marks except for the clean, unnatural wear pattern caused by a sander. Also the string holes on the back of the body are not aligned. Who knows what that thing is w/o a teardown.


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Post subject: Re: Is this a genuine '57 Tele?
Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:44 pm
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I would say that it is at least NOT what it is claimed to be. The date is wrong for the rosewood fingerboard, from what I know of Fender history. A Fender? Maybe. Maybe not. I agree that all the wear looks fabricated, too. Especially the "buckle rash" on the back of the body.

Nice pics though.


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