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Post subject: new tele...some questions.
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:50 am
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hi everyone. i'm new to the lounge/forum, figured i'd better jump in and enjoy this part of having a tele.
i have a new 2012 american deluxe 2012 ash, maple neck, butterscotch blonde..i could prattle on for hours about how and why i chose this over other models but that won't answer my questions. it is a beautiful instrument. anyone else have a 2012 american deluxe? comments on the neck or pick-ups? i'm, lets say, adjusting to both.
i was surprised that it had a contour ?belly cut.. i'm not clear if i like it..guess i've just to get to know her better. are all new teles such as the american standard or new vintage made that way? my choice seemed very limited if i wanted butterscotch blonde..i did not know about the new vintages.
it also came with strap locks that i cannot figure out. a horseshoe part is stamped 'fender'. a ball end seems to simply go up and down and not screw out. there is no apparent protection(felt or something) to protect the body. are these really necessary and how in the world do you put them on?
also, i would think it has a battery but where?
i have a 96 tele as well. nicely bound. made in japan. it has an 'f' hole but doesn't seem to be a thinline..i'd like help identifying it however despite reading posts about adding pictures, i am still very confused about that process....gee i will be amazed if i do not mess up and lose this post :lol:
better submit this(i've already lost a draft somehow, somewhere) and thanks for replies! :)
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:59 pm
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I guess the belly contour is new for this year - the last American Deluxe Ash Tele I looked at had the regular slab body and it also had the regular neck plate (instead of the beveled neck plate on the alder body American Deluxes). The American Vintage Teles will not have the belly contour - and if you want butterscotch you would be limited to either the old AV '52 or the new one that just came out.

There are no batteries - these are passive noiseless pickups that are stacked humbuckers.

Lastly the strap locks - the horseshoe shaped pieces go on your strap, not on the guitar. There is a nut on one side of the horseshoe - unscrew the nut, push the post through the strap so the horseshoe is on the inside of the strap, then screw the nut back down so the horseshoe part is attached to the strap. The horseshoe part then slides up onto the buttons that are already on the guitar. When you want to remove the strap, you pull on the ball end to release the strap (and you have to obviously move it so the button on the guitar comes out the open end of the horseshoe). These are made by Schaller.

I have a Fender with these on it; since I don't play out and therefore don't jump around with the guitar I have never installed the horseshoe shaped parts (called clips I believe) onto the strap. I have kind of a stiff Levy's strap and it stays on the buttons tight enough for my purposes.

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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:29 pm
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thank you John for the reply and a wealth of information. i do not think for the time being that i need strap locks either however when i do, i now know how to do it. as for the contour, so be it, i wanted butterscotch and no hum worries. i will get used to the new look and feel.
the battery thing is a little embarrassing but hey, i know for sure now and won't be taking anything apart looking for it.
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:49 am
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Hi there! I've got a 2011 American Deluxe Telecaster, and it has the "belly cut". I actually wanted this in a Tele - which is why I was looking at the Deluxe in the first place. I love Teles, but wanted the extra comfort I think the belly cut gives. This year, the "belly cut" has come out on the American Standards as well I believe.

I personally love the neck, but that is often up the the individual. As you say, it is a beautiful instrument. The N3 noiseless pickips are perfect for me, giving more range, but perhaps less bite - there is more than enough to get the tone you are after though.

The strap locks take little time to adjust to. I liked how they work so much, I got another pair for my Brian May guitar, which didn't feel safe. But I don't feel compelled to replace the straps on all my guitars, most of the time a standard button works fine for me.

My guitar was gifted with a fair bit of Fender Mojo, and I'm working on giving it whatever more I can. My collection of guitars is pretty standard, but each instrument has been carefully selected, and represent what I believe to be some of the finest examples available. I sincerely love this instrument, and I think that it will just get better with age. Good luck with yours!


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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:29 am
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Hello as well. Good to hear from a tele lover who also owns a deluxe. I really think that anyone who owns any kind of tele is one fortunate guitarist....you know I researched a lot before deciding on the deluxe...sooo many teles to choose from, sooo little time... :lol:. Bad jokes aside, the 'belly cut' surprised me...where's my slab, the tele of my dreams? I chose the deluxe for the neck, pick-ups, new switching. ash and colour(butterscotch) however yikes, did I buy too soon, the new vintage series has a butterscotch blonde with a beloved bridge(ashtray) cover which mine did not come with and probably no 'belly cut'..ahh, why does Fender do that? When I was researching only 2 deluxe tele models to choose from and now 3(I think) new vintage as well as the re-issues.

However I have come to love the 'belly cut'. It just seems to fit me in a comfy way, sitting, standing and position/angle changes. I find the contour line, beautiful now. Hmmm.. perhaps it is the wave of the future if the american standard is coming that way.

The neck is different in feel I find. At first my hand tired and cramped which surprised me as well. I have small hands but from the get-go the neck fit nicely. The more I play, the more delightful, smooth and silky, I find it and the strings bend so nicely throughout. Gee, it just plays so well.

I found the pick-ups eerily quiet at first but not now. i'm happy with no hum! and I agree, a different sound, less bite perhaps but unique with its own voice. I will not be swapping out the pick-ups. Haven't quite figured out the new switching system. Any suggestions for a great blues/tone sound would be welcome.

I'm ok for now without the strap locks on my deluxe. Thanks to the forum though, i know how to use/apply them. I'm not jumpin' around yet. After a long hiatus from playing bass in a blues band, I'm really teaching myself guitar for fun. I see myself playing in a band again with this deluxe...wow, maybe a legend in my own mind but nobody elses :!:

So I agree this is one beautiful guitar and a keeper and yes, will more than stand the test of time. My collection is small but each guitar was carefully selected as well. I want more of course however my wife says..how many guitars can you play at once?...you've only got 2 hands...seems to be a common complaint from the few posts I've read...oh well, that's another story.

Have fun with your deluxe and that Brian May! Wow! Thanks for the reply.
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Post subject: Re: new tele...some questions.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:51 am
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I have several Tele's and Strats. Each has it's own strap and strap locks. I use a strap even when playing seated. For some reason I started out using the button type strap locks on my Tele's and the horse shoe type on my strats. The reason for using these things comes from seeing folks ruin a beautiful guitar with one simple careless move. This is a case where "An ounce of prevention is worth several pounds when it comes time to sell or trade a guitar". My last trade was for an Epi Les Paul (used) that had no strap locks but did have a chunk knocked out of the rear of the body, obviously the result of being dropped. By the way I have one of the new Blacktop tele's and love the contoured body.
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:35 pm
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korarman wrote:
Hello as well. Good to hear from a tele lover who also owns a deluxe. I really think that anyone who owns any kind of tele is one fortunate guitarist....you know I researched a lot before deciding on the deluxe...sooo many teles to choose from, sooo little time... :lol:. Bad jokes aside, the 'belly cut' surprised me...where's my slab, the tele of my dreams? I chose the deluxe for the neck, pick-ups, new switching. ash and colour(butterscotch) however yikes, did I buy too soon, the new vintage series has a butterscotch blonde with a beloved bridge(ashtray) cover which mine did not come with and probably no 'belly cut'..ahh, why does Fender do that? When I was researching only 2 deluxe tele models to choose from and now 3(I think) new vintage as well as the re-issues.

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Patrick - glad you're getting along with your new American Deluxe. If I didn't mention it before I was surprised to find that your guitar has the belly cut - that must be one of those "specifications subject to change at any time" that Fender puts on the bottom of their spec sheets since this model used to have the slab body.

If you want a slab body and the ashtray cover then you have to go with an American Vintage model. And you are correct that there are three models in the new lineup:

1. AV '52 - that will be your butterscotch blonde, black guard, maple board model with a fairly fat "U" shaped neck

2. AV '58 - also maple neck but white pickguard and several colors; has a pretty thick "D" shaped neck

3. AV '64 - has a C-shaped neck with a round-laminate style rosewood board in several colors with a 3-ply white pickguard

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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:42 pm
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S Bender wrote:
I have several Tele's and Strats. Each has it's own strap and strap locks. I use a strap even when playing seated. For some reason I started out using the button type strap locks on my Tele's and the horse shoe type on my strats. The reason for using these things comes from seeing folks ruin a beautiful guitar with one simple careless move. This is a case where "An ounce of prevention is worth several pounds when it comes time to sell or trade a guitar". My last trade was for an Epi Les Paul (used) that had no strap locks but did have a chunk knocked out of the rear of the body, obviously the result of being dropped. By the way I have one of the new Blacktop tele's and love the contoured body.
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Thanks. Each of my guitars has its own strap as well and I do play when seated with the strap on. The straps are never removed. I am reconsidering the use of strap locks now. One of my straps is worn and prone to popping off the rear of the body. it is used on my '96 tele. I now fear it may be(or is) an accident waiting to happen. I worked hard to afford my teles so i've got to agree with your "ounce of prevention.....My new tele is ash and I'm finding it substantial, so strap locks all around then and peace of mind!
My contour is still a work in progress for me. Some days I love it, others, I'm still not sure, however overtime I have no doubt we'll agree to love each other!

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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:26 pm
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Patrick - glad you're getting along with your new American Deluxe. If you want a slab body and the ashtray cover then you have to go with an American Vintage model. And you are correct that there are three models in the new lineup:

1. AV '52 - that will be your butterscotch blonde, black guard, maple board model with a fairly fat "U" shaped neck

2. AV '58 - also maple neck but white pickguard and several colors; has a pretty thick "D" shaped neck

3. AV '64 - has a C-shaped neck with a round-laminate style rosewood board in several colors with a 3-ply white pickguard

Hope that helps.[/quote]

Yup, thanks John, we're gettin' along ok and adjusting to one another...I still have a like/don't like contour thing but that's gotta be mostly in my head...the contour really is comfy. I have to admit that. It just was not what I expected.
I appreciate your research on the AV's and I suppose if my money grew on trees, I would consider flipping my Deluxe for the '52. Alas, my money does not grow on trees and the other consideration becomes the neck. I'm ok with (adjusting to) the modern 'C' shape on the Deluxe given my small hands... it does have a different feel then my '96...would I like the fairly fat 'U' shaped neck...is it compensated etc. etc. Would i like the pick-ups? I do not know. I think I just need more time with my Deluxe and appreciate it for what it is, just as it is AND if I win a lottery, the AV '52 is mine, ashtray cover and all! Afterall, no one can have too many guitars. I am truly grateful for that which I have. Thanks for the help and helpful insight.

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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:03 pm
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You're welcome.

Hey I hear you on never having too many. I also have really small hands (plus I'm a lefty playing righty and I can tend toward tendonitis in my left hand - pretty much two strikes against me) but for now Ireally do like the neck on my Fender Select Tele - it's the same modern C/compound radius neck shape as the American Deluxe. However, if I had unlimited funds for guitars I would also have an AV '64 Tele in Lake Placid Blue - that's the one from the new line of AVs that keeps calling my name. :lol:


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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:04 pm
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Hey I hear you on never having too many. I also have really small hands (plus I'm a lefty playing righty and I can tend toward tendonitis in my left hand - pretty much two strikes against me) but for now Ireally do like the neck on my Fender Select Tele - it's the same modern C/compound radius neck shape as the American Deluxe. However, if I had unlimited funds for guitars I would also have an AV '64 Tele in Lake Placid Blue - that's the one from the new line of AVs that keeps calling my name. :lol:



Gee I said compensating talking about the neck but actually was referring to compound radius. I did not know the Select Teles had the same neck. I am going to look them up.
Perhaps you've got 2 strikes against you... however you appear to be doing it and adjusting to challenges with a dream. I like dreams. For me, my whole life, I saw myself with a Butterscotch Blonde Tele and now my dream has come true. Hard to explain really, from the first time I saw and heard one, I knew I just had to and would have one. I just have a thing for Fender guitars in general. I look at my Deluxe. It is a thing of beauty but really represents so much more to me. I have a sense that others feel as I do about their Telecasters. Anyways, our 'other new' Teles simply wait patiently for us.
I did want to ask if you have switched from the factory strings.(Fender 250 lights I think) I find them, especially the G,B,E strings...thin...they tend to cut into my finger on barre chords...could be me and bad mechanics...otherwise I quite like them.
I see Lake Placid in your future :!:

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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:27 am
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Gee I said compensating talking about the neck but actually was referring to compound radius. I did not know the Select Teles had the same neck. I am going to look them up.
Perhaps you've got 2 strikes against you... however you appear to be doing it and adjusting to challenges with a dream. I like dreams. For me, my whole life, I saw myself with a Butterscotch Blonde Tele and now my dream has come true. Hard to explain really, from the first time I saw and heard one, I knew I just had to and would have one. I just have a thing for Fender guitars in general. I look at my Deluxe. It is a thing of beauty but really represents so much more to me. I have a sense that others feel as I do about their Telecasters. Anyways, our 'other new' Teles simply wait patiently for us.
I did want to ask if you have switched from the factory strings.(Fender 250 lights I think) I find them, especially the G,B,E strings...thin...they tend to cut into my finger on barre chords...could be me and bad mechanics...otherwise I quite like them.
I see Lake Placid in your future :!:


Well that is one of my "crutches" to keep playing after all these years - I do stick with .009s on my 25 1/2" scale guitars. Frankly I usually use a "hybrid" set on any guitar with 25" or shorter scale length that runs .009-.046 - the plain strings are the guages from a .009 set and the wound strings are the guages from a .010 set. This keeps the bendability on the plain strings but tightens up the low end. I'm running those right now on a Collings 290 (if you're not familiar, this is Collings' take on the Les Paul Special) which has a longer-than-Gibson 24 7/8" scale. I guess since Collings started out making acoustics they stuck with a scale that is normally found on acoustics geared toward fingerstyle.

I think the only guitars I would go to a straight .010 guage would be certain PRS models that have a 24.5" scale.

I've found often that it's the entire "neck geometry" that comes into play - how the width, depth, shape and radius all come together. For example the Collings has a fairly fat neck, but with the shorter scale it works. For years for the 25 1/2" scale guitars I played Ernie Ball/Music Mans - most of their models have a 1.625" nut width and are medium in depth (the Albert Lee is their fattest neck, and it wasn't quite as fat as the outgoing AV '52 Tele). I actually dumped all my 25 1/2" scale guitars except my old Lead II (kept for sentimental reasons, not as a player) in 2010 and spent almost 2 years rehabing my hand and focusing on eliminating some bad habits in terms of technique. That got me back to the piont where I could comfortably play a 25 1/2" scale again earlier this year - so I celebrated that combined with a milestone birthday by getting the Select Tele.


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Gee I said compensating talking about the neck but actually was referring to compound radius. I did not know the Select Teles had the same neck. I am going to look them up.
Perhaps you've got 2 strikes against you... however you appear to be doing it and adjusting to challenges with a dream. I like dreams. For me, my whole life, I saw myself with a Butterscotch Blonde Tele and now my dream has come true. Hard to explain really, from the first time I saw and heard one, I knew I just had to and would have one. I just have a thing for Fender guitars in general. I look at my Deluxe. It is a thing of beauty but really represents so much more to me. I have a sense that others feel as I do about their Telecasters. Anyways, our 'other new' Teles simply wait patiently for us.
I did want to ask if you have switched from the factory strings.(Fender 250 lights I think) I find them, especially the G,B,E strings...thin...they tend to cut into my finger on barre chords...could be me and bad mechanics...otherwise I quite like them.
I see Lake Placid in your future :!:


Well that is one of my "crutches" to keep playing after all these years - I do stick with .009s on my 25 1/2" scale guitars. Frankly I usually use a "hybrid" set on any guitar with 25" or shorter scale length that runs .009-.046 - the plain strings are the guages from a .009 set and the wound strings are the guages from a .010 set. This keeps the bendability on the plain strings but tightens up the low end. I'm running those right now on a Collings 290 (if you're not familiar, this is Collings' take on the Les Paul Special) which has a longer-than-Gibson 24 7/8" scale. I guess since Collings started out making acoustics they stuck with a scale that is normally found on acoustics geared toward fingerstyle.

I think the only guitars I would go to a straight .010 guage would be certain PRS models that have a 24.5" scale.

I've found often that it's the entire "neck geometry" that comes into play - how the width, depth, shape and radius all come together. For example the Collings has a fairly fat neck, but with the shorter scale it works. For years for the 25 1/2" scale guitars I played Ernie Ball/Music Mans - most of their models have a 1.625" nut width and are medium in depth (the Albert Lee is their fattest neck, and it wasn't quite as fat as the outgoing AV '52 Tele). I actually dumped all my 25 1/2" scale guitars except my old Lead II (kept for sentimental reasons, not as a player) in 2010 and spent almost 2 years rehabing my hand and focusing on eliminating some bad habits in terms of technique. That got me back to the piont where I could comfortably play a 25 1/2" scale again earlier this year - so I celebrated that combined with a milestone birthday by getting the Select Tele.



Well what can I say then, you know your guitars. You know your stuff. I figure the Fender guys know their stuff as well. They put my Deluxe together as it is to be a playable joy from the start and long haul. I will then stick with the .09-.042 for now and watch my mechanics and go from there. This is not a case of disliking the strings as much as adjusting to the new feel of everything. I figure you should play with strings you like...subjective stuff...just got to figure it all out.
I checked the Fender Selects. You have one beautiful Telecaster. It shares similarities with the Deluxe. I want one now!..so that makes 2 more Teles at least for me. Is this Tele'itis'?
Congratulations on that, your milestone rehab fortitude success and dedication to your craft.

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"i do not think for the time being that i need strap locks either however when i do, i now know how to do it."

Do yourself a huge favor.. Put those straplocks on my friend.

this guy did not do so, and well,, as you will see, his day didn't end well..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... TiaAZcZURs

since your guitar already has the button installed, just want make sure that you have the strap part of the strap lock installed correctly. believe it or not, some people don't do this correctly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... TiaAZcZURs


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"i do not think for the time being that i need strap locks either however when i do, i now know how to do it."

Do yourself a huge favor.. Put those straplocks on my friend.

this guy did not do so, and well,, as you will see, his day didn't end well..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... TiaAZcZURs

since your guitar already has the button installed, just want make sure that you have the strap part of the strap lock installed correctly. believe it or not, some people don't do this correctly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... TiaAZcZURs


That was one absolutely horrible scary video. I sure could not replace my Deluxe if that happened to me...The strap locks go on and I'm buying 2 more sets for my other guitars :!: Thank you.
I've just got to say,being a newbie, how nice it is that everybody in someway is helping me out and taking care of me. What a nice welcome. It is so good to be a Fender owner and forum member :D
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