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Post subject: Change bridge pick-up telecaster with a humbucker single coi
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:19 am
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Hi... Maybe someone has just answered my question in other posts. In this case I'm really sorry.
I need to change the bridge pup of my telecaster Squire Classic Vibe '50 with a single coil Seymour Duncan Hot Rail STHR 1b. So my questions:

1) Is the Seymour Duncan STHR 1b the only SEymour Duncan humbucker that I can install on my bridge tele pup?
2) One of my friends told me that if I install an humbucker I would need to change also the potentiometer. He told me that Squire Tele classic vibe uses a 250 potentiometer (250 what?!?!) and I'd need minimum a 500! Is it true? What the hell is 250 or 500?
3) He told me that it would be a great thing to change also the tone volume control... why? Is he right? And, if I to change it... what I have to do?
4) Do I need to change other stuff in order to have a perfect guitar and a perfect sound?
5) and last question... my friend told me that he's pretty sure that the bridge of the squire telecaster doesn't have a ground wire... is it true? Do I need to install a ground lead.

Thank you for your patience and sorry for my question-storming.
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Post subject: Re: Change bridge pick-up telecaster with a humbucker single
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:48 pm
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Why do you "need" to change to that type pickup?

There are many humbucker types, side-by-side coils or stacked coils, that can be installed in the bridge.

Your friend is wrong, at least in regard to that particular pickup. It is designed for use with 250K ohm pots as the wiring diagram shows:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/images/pro ... vD_web.pdf

There is no such thing as "perfect sound". Tone is subjective. What sounds perfect to you may sound like mud to me and others.

You have to remove the bridge plate to install the pickup so you will find out then if it has a ground wire. If not, just run a wire from the back of the volume control to the underside of the bridge. If none is present, you may have to drill a hole from one cavity to the other.

Quite frankly if you don't know what the pot values mean, you have no business opening up your guitar and should take it to a pro to have done what you want.

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Post subject: Re: Change bridge pick-up telecaster with a humbucker single
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:35 pm
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I need to change to that type pickup (SD) because my friend - who's the owner of the guitar - wants only this kind of pup. The question is that I don't know if SD (and only SD) produces other humbucker pups for the Tele's bridge.

Quite frankly there are many many bricklayers that build wonderful houses without knowing what the hell is a house-project (and many architects that have no idea of how to build a wall). In order to change a pup you don't need to know what is the electromagnetic physical concept of endurance. This is not my opinion: it's Aristoteles' Metaphysics (book alpha)
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Why do you "need" to change to that type pickup?

There are many humbucker types, side-by-side coils or stacked coils, that can be installed in the bridge.

Your friend is wrong, at least in regard to that particular pickup. It is designed for use with 250K ohm pots as the wiring diagram shows:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/images/pro ... vD_web.pdf

There is no such thing as "perfect sound". Tone is subjective. What sounds perfect to you may sound like mud to me and others.

You have to remove the bridge plate to install the pickup so you will find out then if it has a ground wire. If not, just run a wire from the back of the volume control to the underside of the bridge. If none is present, you may have to drill a hole from one cavity to the other.

Quite frankly if you don't know what the pot values mean, you have no business opening up your guitar and should take it to a pro to have done what you want.


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Post subject: Re: Change bridge pick-up telecaster with a humbucker single
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:49 pm
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Maybe not, but bricklayers know how to apply the cement between bricks to make a sturdy house, and architects know how to design a house that can be built.

And to change a pickup, you do need to know what pickups are available and what value pots and caps to use, knowledge you seem to be lacking.

Good luck. I have a feeling you will need it. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Change bridge pick-up telecaster with a humbucker single
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:42 pm
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Bill... I knew that SD tele bridge pup uses the 250K (I've read the wiring layout on the web... and yes... I can read wiring layouts...) THE PROBLEM WAS (so the question IS) does the Seymour Duncan STHR 1b works better with a 500k pot as my friend told to me? In fact there's the possibility that it works with the 250K BUT ALSO with the 500k.
What I don't know is the REASON of the answer to my question: why this pup doesn't work with a 500k? Or why it works better with a 500k?
The difference between the architect and the bricklayer is not the PRACTICAL ABILITY but the fact that the architect knows the REASON of what he does... the bricklayer doesn't.
In any case... Billy... thank you for your help and sorry for my philosophical digression.
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Maybe not, but bricklayers know how to apply the cement between bricks to make a sturdy house, and architects know how to design a house that can be built.

And to change a pickup, you do need to know what pickups are available and what value pots and caps to use, knowledge you seem to be lacking.

Good luck. I have a feeling you will need it. :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Change bridge pick-up telecaster with a humbucker single
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:24 am
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Have a look at Seymour Duncan's BG1400.

http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/c ... 2930k_for/


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Post subject: Re: Change bridge pick-up telecaster with a humbucker single
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:46 pm
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Ah... I've asked the same question directly to Mr. Seymour Duncan and they've answered that my friend was right!
Here the answer:

Your friend is correct. Because the STHR-1b is a single-coil sized humbucker, a 500k pot would be ideal. It'll work fine with a 250k, but the 500K will let more of the pickups inherent tone come through, mostly noticeable in the sparkle of the treble. You shouldn't need to change anything else, however.

So remember... when you change your pup for a single coil humbucker... if you want everything works perfectly... change the volume pot.


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