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Post subject: eBay Question
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:22 pm
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If you are like me, you browse eBay from time to time checking out the various Tele's offered for sale. There are always a lot of necks and "loaded bodies" for sale. Whenever I see them I often wonder how they ended up as parts.

What are your thoughts on this?

Did the "loaded body" start out as a complete Tele and the neck broke/cracked? Or, are people buying just the body for resale? Parts and half guitars seem to dominate the guitar listings on eBay.

I'm just being curious, that's all.


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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:31 pm
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Yep. There are several chop shops that buy new guitars (even Custom Shops) and part them out. The total value of all the parts is worth more than the complete guitar.

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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:39 pm
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Really great question I wondered about it myself..I look at ebay to see what Plus's are there and I always curious how just a body is for sale or neck etc..and wonder who murdered them..

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Post subject: Re: eBay Question
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:05 am
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I believe that Fender ships the loaded bodies to some high end
Fender dealers with custom shops. These dealer/shops cater
to guitarists who love the Fender Strats Teles or Jaguars,
but are picky about the necks. Why lose a customer over
a neck, and why burden the resellers with extra necks and
pulled necks?

Hope this helps. Toppscore 8)

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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:19 am
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Thanks for all the responses.

Seems a bit unfortunate that the value of the individual parts are greater than the complete guitar. Sort of goes against normal logic. I'd much rather have an all original and complete Tele than a partscaster. To each their own I suppose.

With that said, I wouldn't mind picking up a Strummer body and putting a maple neck on it!


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Post subject: Re: eBay Question
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:03 am
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Toppscore wrote:
I believe that Fender ships the loaded bodies to some high end
Fender dealers with custom shops. These dealer/shops cater
to guitarists who love the Fender Strats Teles or Jaguars,
but are picky about the necks. Why lose a customer over
a neck, and why burden the resellers with extra necks and
pulled necks?

Hope this helps. Toppscore 8)

Where did you come up with that bit of info. Sounds absurd to me.


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Post subject: Re: eBay Question
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:52 am
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My question about ebay is why are 90% of would-be sellers wholly unrealistic with their pricing?
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I couldn't agree with you more.


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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:05 am
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tbazzone wrote:
Toppscore wrote:
I believe that Fender ships the loaded bodies to some high end
Fender dealers with custom shops. These dealer/shops cater
to guitarists who love the Fender Strats Teles or Jaguars,
but are picky about the necks. Why lose a customer over
a neck, and why burden the resellers with extra necks and
pulled necks?

Hope this helps. Toppscore 8)

Where did you come up with that bit of info. Sounds absurd to me.


Dumbest thing I have ever heard but I am sure he can prove his claims. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: eBay Question
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:08 am
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ES11 wrote:
Thanks for all the responses.

Seems a bit unfortunate that the value of the individual parts are greater than the complete guitar. Sort of goes against normal logic. I'd much rather have an all original and complete Tele than a partscaster. To each their own I suppose.

With that said, I wouldn't mind picking up a Strummer body and putting a maple neck on it!


Why do you think cars are so expensive to repair? It is a known fact that if you were to buy every part that goes into making up whatever car you drive, it would cost way more than what you paid for the car to begin with. Pretty much true with any major appliance, TV, etc.

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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:41 am
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Good point Bluesky.


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Post subject: Re: eBay Question
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:49 am
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ES11 wrote:
Thanks for all the responses. Seems a bit unfortunate that the value of the individual parts are greater than the complete guitar. Sort of goes against normal logic. I'd much rather have an all original and complete Tele than a partscaster. To each their own I suppose. With that said, I wouldn't mind picking up a Strummer body and putting a maple neck on it!


ES11: I've constantly searched for "New Unused" loaded bodies and by the time I added a new neck and neck components, the prices are always higher. As Bluesky said, buying parts is almost always more expensive within most any industries than the completed product. Generally, you can account for the cost of doing business and selling the parts individually are the reasons. Shop around, sometimes there are blow-out and inventory sales.
Take care, Toppscore 8)

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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:56 am
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Toppscore wrote:
ES11 wrote:
Thanks for all the responses. Seems a bit unfortunate that the value of the individual parts are greater than the complete guitar. Sort of goes against normal logic. I'd much rather have an all original and complete Tele than a partscaster. To each their own I suppose. With that said, I wouldn't mind picking up a Strummer body and putting a maple neck on it!


ES11: I've constantly searched for "New Unused" loaded bodies and by the time I added a new neck and neck components, the prices are always higher. As Bluesky said, buying parts is almost always more expensive within most any industries than the completed product. Generally, you can account for the cost of doing business and selling the parts individually are the reasons. Shop around, sometimes there are blow-out and inventory sales.
Take care, Toppscore 8)


Toppscore,
I understand the concept, but to me a complete all original Tele is worth more $ than putting several different parts together. That's just my opinion.


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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:20 am
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bluesky636 wrote:
Why do you think cars are so expensive to repair? It is a known fact that if you were to buy every part that goes into making up whatever car you drive, it would cost way more than what you paid for the car to begin with.


Funny, there's an article in today's Wall Street Journal about car thieves that concludes the most-often stolen cars are older models where the parts have the greatest value. I avoid eBay at all costs, so I have no idea what is going on there. But if there are a large number of "parts", could some of them be coming from stolen guitars that get disassembled?


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Post subject: Re: eBay Question
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:38 am
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ES11 wrote:
Toppscore wrote:
ES11 wrote:
Thanks for all the responses. Seems a bit unfortunate that the value of the individual parts are greater than the complete guitar. Sort of goes against normal logic. I'd much rather have an all original and complete Tele than a partscaster. To each their own I suppose. With that said, I wouldn't mind picking up a Strummer body and putting a maple neck on it!


ES11: I've constantly searched for "New Unused" loaded bodies and by the time I added a new neck and neck components, the prices are always higher. As Bluesky said, buying parts is almost always more expensive within most any industries than the completed product. Generally, you can account for the cost of doing business and selling the parts individually are the reasons. Shop around, sometimes there are blow-out and inventory sales. Take care, Toppscore 8)
Toppscore, I understand the concept, but to me a complete all original Tele is worth more $ than putting several different parts together. That's just my opinion.


A complete Tele is going to cost less.
Brand new guitars do not have the vintage added value.
They are just the product to turn and sell and keep the company going.
If you buy individual parts, just the cost of sales and inventory and ordering
and shipping each part is difficult. Plus, having the parts in stock is a burden.
I buy parts and components from places like Amplified Covers, Mojotone,
Vintage Music 4U, Music Parts Guru, Antique Electronics and several others.

Imagine selling on guitar, or selling the twenty parts to make the guitar,
having to take photos and produce marketing descriptions etc etc etc.
And, imagine having to show a ton of options like pick-guard colors.

IMHO, many retail stores/resellers work on a margin like 30%.
Get the whole Telecaster for $600 from Fender and sell it for $800, or source
and procure individual parts which have higher individual costs w/more effort.

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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:44 am
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Do you just make up stuff as you go.


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