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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:47 pm
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I just installed a set of Fender Schaller chrome locking tuners on my Lite Ash Tele. The Fender part number is 099-0818-100. When I got home, and halfway through the installation I noticed 3 of the tuners had longer shafts than the other 3. I called the guitar shop where I purchased these to ask about it. They told me the shorter shafts were for the high E, B and G strings, and the longer shafts where for the low E, A and D strings. Looking at a variety of pictures of locking tuners online, I can't see this distinction. Is this the real deal or did I get a mixed up package?


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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:54 pm
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I think that the GBE and string tuners are lower so that way you may not have to use string trees after installation, but I might be wrong about that....

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bowlfreshener wrote:
I think that the GBE and string tuners are lower so that way you may not have to use string trees after installation, but I might be wrong about that....


You're right, the're called staggered tuners, no string tree needed.


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I did the exact same with my 2006 American Standard Tele. The higher 3 are for the low strings (4-6) and the shorter three are for the high strings (1-3) This keeps the string angle over the nut about the same for all strings, resulting in better return to tune when bending. I still use a string tree for 1-2 as was the case with the original guitar. I changed it over to a Graph-Tech, though, to allow the strings to slide better.

I hope you are finding that string changes are much easier and that the guitar stays in tune for very long periods of time. I also switched out the saddles for Graph-Tech and that has helped a lot.

Steve M.


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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:19 am
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I've had them on mine now for a year, and didn't know that there was a difference.
Read this and checked.
Yep, mine are not only staggered, but somehow, I even put them on correctly.
It was hard for me to tell the difference, but looking at the hole in the shaft makes it easy to see.
On the short ones, the hole is closer to the nut. (not the headstock nut..the fastening nut)


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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:36 pm
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OK now that you guys have swaped out for locking tuners, tell me why you made the decision. I have a Deluxe Telecaster Plus that seems to be giving me fits trying to fine tune it. Seems like the stock tuners are getting sloppy and aren't as precise as they used to be. Is upgrading tuners the answer?
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:46 pm
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Anything that touches strings can be a source of tuning problems. Locking tuners are part of the answer, I believe, because they eliminate string wraps around the posts. I also installed Graph Tech saddles and string trees that allow the strings to glide through these points with far less friction. The only thing left is to replace the nut, but I am chicken to remove the old one. And My Tele stays in tune like crazy without it so far. Add to this the ability to change strings very quickly, and the locking tuners make a lot of sense. Stick them through the posts, turn the locking screw and tune. Well worth the bucks!

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