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Post subject: 52 reissue and hot rod deville 2/12
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:31 pm
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just got the tele..Any ideas on some settings with this combo that folks like? :D Playing with it but would love some more experienced input...thanks..


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Post subject: Re: 52 reissue and hot rod deville 2/12
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:47 pm
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Why do people always ask this question?

Setting the controls on a guitar and amp vary depending on pickup selection, type of pickup, room acoustics, the specific amp, personal tastes, volume level, etc. Settings that are tone heaven for me may sound like the interior of a steel mill for you. You are doing what you should be doing: Play with the settings to find YOUR tone, not someone elses. Besides, its more fun that way. :wink:

PS: I'm sure someone will come along with other suggestions.

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Post subject: Re: 52 reissue and hot rod deville 2/12
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:24 am
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bluesky636 wrote:
Why do people always ask this question?

Setting the controls on a guitar and amp vary depending on pickup selection, type of pickup, room acoustics, the specific amp, personal tastes, volume level, etc. Settings that are tone heaven for me may sound like the interior of a steel mill for you. You are doing what you should be doing: Play with the settings to find YOUR tone, not someone elses. Besides, its more fun that way. :wink:


You absolutely NAILED it. Great post! 8)

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Post subject: Re: 52 reissue and hot rod deville 2/12
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:33 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
Why do people always ask this question?

Setting the controls on a guitar and amp vary depending on pickup selection, type of pickup, room acoustics, the specific amp, personal tastes, volume level, etc. Settings that are tone heaven for me may sound like the interior of a steel mill for you. You are doing what you should be doing: Play with the settings to find YOUR tone, not someone elses. Besides, its more fun that way. :wink:

PS: I'm sure someone will come along with other suggestions.


while all that is true, it came off a little harsh. well, at least to me, but I'm sitting here moping around cause I just dropped my boy off at the airport to head back to his air base (he's airforce, just had his first leave home) so I may be off the bell curve a bit

play with it. ignore the sheet full of settings that came with the amp if you still have it. try setting the treble at 2 o'clock, the bass at 3 o'clock and the mids rolled back to 9 o'clock. leave the bright switch off for bridge and bridge'neck, on for neck pickup alone. then ignore what everyone else says and find something you like


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Post subject: Re: 52 reissue and hot rod deville 2/12
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:25 am
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internet snobbery lulz


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Post subject: Re: 52 reissue and hot rod deville 2/12
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:56 am
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Ryan3985 wrote:
internet snobbery lulz


No snobbery at all. Plain fact.

If my amp sits on a 3' tall stand in the middle of the room and yours sits on the floor up against a wall, I guarantee that using my amp settings, your's would sound like crap.

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Post subject: Re: 52 reissue and hot rod deville 2/12
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:59 am
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cjpeck wrote:
bluesky636 wrote:
Why do people always ask this question?

Setting the controls on a guitar and amp vary depending on pickup selection, type of pickup, room acoustics, the specific amp, personal tastes, volume level, etc. Settings that are tone heaven for me may sound like the interior of a steel mill for you. You are doing what you should be doing: Play with the settings to find YOUR tone, not someone elses. Besides, its more fun that way. :wink:

PS: I'm sure someone will come along with other suggestions.


while all that is true, it came off a little harsh. well, at least to me, but I'm sitting here moping around cause I just dropped my boy off at the airport to head back to his air base (he's airforce, just had his first leave home) so I may be off the bell curve a bit

play with it. ignore the sheet full of settings that came with the amp if you still have it. try setting the treble at 2 o'clock, the bass at 3 o'clock and the mids rolled back to 9 o'clock. leave the bright switch off for bridge and bridge'neck, on for neck pickup alone. then ignore what everyone else says and find something you like


Harsh would have been saying "Why do people always ask this question?" and stopping there. I explained why I said that and why the OP should experiment to find his own sound, not copy mine or someone elses.

Hope your son is somewhere safe.

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Post subject: Re: 52 reissue and hot rod deville 2/12
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 8:18 am
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harsh was not answering the OP's question at all while pontificating on why he should "go forth and learn for himself". The OP asked for some starting points to dial in his new tele and HRDvl. Well, at least that's how I saw it, YMMV. For what it's worth, your answer was 100% spot on, just in the light of what the OP asked came off a bit tougher than you intended. In any case, feel free to ignore this, It's early and I was up till 0330 tearing the paint off the walls.


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Post subject: Re: 52 reissue and hot rod deville 2/12
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:21 am
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cjpeck wrote:
harsh was not answering the OP's question at all while pontificating on why he should "go forth and learn for himself". The OP asked for some starting points to dial in his new tele and HRDvl. Well, at least that's how I saw it, YMMV. For what it's worth, your answer was 100% spot on, just in the light of what the OP asked came off a bit tougher than you intended. In any case, feel free to ignore this, It's early and I was up till 0330 tearing the paint off the walls.


My answer came off exactly as I intended it.

I find it amusing how you freely criticize my responses while attempting to justify yours by first saying you were saying goodbye to your son and now that you were up late tearing paint off the walls. Consider yourself ignored .... permanently.

Oh, and to answer the OP's question, start with everything on "6" and season to taste. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: 52 reissue and hot rod deville 2/12
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:40 am
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Wow. just wow.

Yes, I criticized your responses. Obviously you see what I meant in each one or you wouldn't be so defensive. I don't need to justify my criticism of your posts, but was attempting to give a bit of perspective to those responses to take any unintentional sting out of them. I take it back though, you took an opportunity to use some internet muscle to take someone down a peg to make yourself seem more experienced and therefore "better" than the OP. Taking someone to task on the internet when they ask for advice is a D=Bag move. And for what it's worth, the "set everything at 6 and season to taste" sarcasm bit doesn't help anyone, least of all yourself. If you had nothing to contribute why bother posting in the first place?

to the OP: Sorry for the derail. Anyways, I like the clean sounds on the HRDvll 212, but feel that the mids are a bit hot on it compared to the 410 version. easy enough to solve though, FMIC put a mid control for just that purpose strangely enough. While everything is dependent on personal aesthetics, most guitar players I've worked with dial back the mids on a 2=12 rig. Get the amp off the floor and off the wall a few feet too. Nothing makes an amp harder to dial in than setting it against a wall and pointing it at your shins.


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Post subject: Re: 52 reissue and hot rod deville 2/12
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:54 am
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cjpeck wrote:
Wow. just wow.

Yes, I criticized your responses. Obviously you see what I meant in each one or you wouldn't be so defensive. I don't need to justify my criticism of your posts, but was attempting to give a bit of perspective to those responses to take any unintentional sting out of them. I take it back though, you took an opportunity to use some internet muscle to take someone down a peg to make yourself seem more experienced and therefore "better" than the OP. Taking someone to task on the internet when they ask for advice is a D=Bag move. And for what it's worth, the "set everything at 6 and season to taste" sarcasm bit doesn't help anyone, least of all yourself. If you had nothing to contribute why bother posting in the first place?

to the OP: Sorry for the derail. Anyways, I like the clean sounds on the HRDvll 212, but feel that the mids are a bit hot on it compared to the 410 version. easy enough to solve though, FMIC put a mid control for just that purpose strangely enough. While everything is dependent on personal aesthetics, most guitar players I've worked with dial back the mids on a 2=12 rig. Get the amp off the floor and off the wall a few feet too. Nothing makes an amp harder to dial in than setting it against a wall and pointing it at your shins.


Merry Christmas to you too and buh-bye. :roll:

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Post subject: Re: 52 reissue and hot rod deville 2/12
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:50 am
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If I recall, when I owned that amp I basically never used the drive or more drive channels, I mainly stuck to the clean. I used an OD pedal to give me more distortion at low volumes, when I needed it, but usually I set the volume at around 4-5 and let the bridge pickup due the work. I had the treble down around 3-4 I think (That amp is bright and teles are bright which leads to uber-brightness) and with the mids taken out as well (like cjpeck was saying). I liked my HRD 212 when I had it, I sold mine after the one music store owner let me play through his 63 deluxe reverb. Might have been a bit rash to sell the Deville like that as it did sound very good, but after hearing that deluxe reverb go into overdrive I was spoiled rotten. Now I own a 66 blackface champ (I can't afford a vintage deluxe reverb so I did the best I could :P).

I can't comment on any neck or bridge/neck pickup settings, as I own the hot rod 52 RI which has the humbucker in the neck. That being said, I'm sure you'll find some wonderful sounds out of both as well as the bridge, don't play too loud and break any windows :P

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Post subject: Re: 52 reissue and hot rod deville 2/12
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:57 am
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Yeah, I just pulled out the deville and plugged in a tele. Seems I roll the tone back to about 7 or so on the guitar too. Did it on autopilot without thinking so I must do it all the time with the tele. I roll it back up to 9 when not on the bridge pickup alone.


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Post subject: Re: 52 reissue and hot rod deville 2/12
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:43 pm
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Thanks for those who had some ideas... I have been mostly a strat and Mesa guy for years.. And was just looking for input on some new equipment that was a gift to me... "Not" Trying to sound like a moron.. Yes different rooms and elevations are going to make a difference, However. I was under the impression that sharing ideas and thoughts on different set-ups was what this forum was all about.. I was just looking for input.....And yes this map in "THIN" and the Tele is Very "Thin" sounding as well.. Tons of fun to play and very versatile...Going to see a delux Reverb this week..might have to get that one too

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Post subject: Re: 52 reissue and hot rod deville 2/12
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:00 pm
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Yes, that's what this forum's about (aside from mindless banter of course). The amp knob setting question is a frequent flyer around here, it's difficult to answer in anything other than general terms simply because of differences in environment in taste (As has been stated quite boldly in this thread :P).

I forgot earlier, here's a link to the Unofficial Hot Rod Deluxe (Deville) owner's guide. It has some good info about the Hot Rod series, tone settings, mods, maintenance and other cool stuff. Perhaps it will help answer some of your questions as it did mine. I never did any mods other than new power tubes, other than being too loud I was quite pleased with that amp. Til that Deluxe Reverb previously mentioned :|
http://justinholton.com/hotrod/

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