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Post subject: Re: New American Standard Tele - a couple of issues
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:41 am
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If you're not happy with the final product, take it back.
The ferrules should be installed correctly.
The no-load pot is not a defect. You should have noticed that in your research.

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Post subject: Re: New American Standard Tele - a couple of issues
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:48 am
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guys a 1000 dollar instrument is not a perfect instrument if you want it perfect you have to shell out more than that.... i wouldnt expect a guitar to be perfect unless it is a custom shop guitar


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Post subject: Re: New American Standard Tele - a couple of issues
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:27 am
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chrits. wrote:
guys a 1000 dollar instrument is not a perfect instrument if you want it perfect you have to shell out more than that.... i wouldnt expect a guitar to be perfect unless it is a custom shop guitar


For $1,000, do I expect perfection? no

Do I expect the guitar not to fall apart? yes


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Post subject: Re: New American Standard Tele - a couple of issues
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:31 am
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alun wrote:
I agree with FloydTatum and kevinhd1200, Fender really needs to take more care when it comes to quality control


Thanks, alun and kevinhd1200!

Finally, some support!


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Post subject: Re: New American Standard Tele - a couple of issues
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:34 am
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tyronne wrote:
The no-load pot is not a defect. You should have noticed that in your research.

I never said it was a defect. I'm saying I don't like it.

And, yes, maybe I should have noticed this before I bought it. On the other hand, the behaviour of the no-load tone pot is not explained anywhere in the Fender advertising, or on the Fender site, that I can find.

In fact, it's not explained anywhere on the internet, that I can find, except buried deep in some forum threads.


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Post subject: Re: New American Standard Tele - a couple of issues
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:31 pm
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FloydTatum wrote:
tyronne wrote:
The no-load pot is not a defect. You should have noticed that in your research.

I never said it was a defect. I'm saying I don't like it.

And, yes, maybe I should have noticed this before I bought it. On the other hand, the behaviour of the no-load tone pot is not explained anywhere in the Fender advertising, or on the Fender site, that I can find.

In fact, it's not explained anywhere on the internet, that I can find, except buried deep in some forum threads.


OK you didn't notice the tone control or didn't try it it in the store, didn't read about the guitar on the Fender web page before buying it so you could see what it had in it and you don't like it because the ferrules fell out.

Take it back, get your refund, buy a different guitar!
Pretty simple - a caveman could do it! :lol:

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Post subject: Re: New American Standard Tele - a couple of issues
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:07 am
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it does say here:

http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/se ... 0110500700

anyway-don't let a pot that is not perfect for you take away from a very nice guitar.

Its only a pot! :D :D :D

And fix the string ferrule problem, and move on. Don't let that detract from the guitar either!!!

Nothing is perfect, enjoy it for what it is :)

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Post subject: Re: New American Standard Tele - a couple of issues
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:22 pm
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chrits. wrote:
guys a 1000 dollar instrument is not a perfect instrument if you want it perfect you have to shell out more than that.... i wouldnt expect a guitar to be perfect unless it is a custom shop guitar



You are obviously far richer than me, when I buy any instrument I expect it to be perfect, nothing less nothing more, We are talking about professional guitars here for professional players, and perfection is what I personally demand, And if fender aren't able to supply perfection on standard models then don't sell them, and tell joe public they would be far better off buying a custom shop model end of. :shock:


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Post subject: Re: New American Standard Tele - a couple of issues
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:35 pm
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alun wrote:
chrits. wrote:
guys a 1000 dollar instrument is not a perfect instrument if you want it perfect you have to shell out more than that.... i wouldnt expect a guitar to be perfect unless it is a custom shop guitar



You are obviously far richer than me, when I buy any instrument I expect it to be perfect, nothing less nothing more, We are talking about professional guitars here for professional players, and perfection is what I personally demand, And if fender aren't able to supply perfection on standard models then don't sell them, and tell joe public they would be far better off buying a custom shop model end of. :shock:

actually im rather poor my dad has worked two jobs for most of my life sometimes three and my mom has always worked i have saved up or traded for every guitar ive bought and the most espensive one out of those is a les paul studio 800 bucks and i traded for half the price so i paid about 400 for iti just look at things realistically fender standered models are not proffesional quality instruments but their custom shop guitars are though i think an important thing to note is that gibson standered model is 2 grand


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Post subject: Re: New American Standard Tele - a couple of issues
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:31 pm
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How ANYONE can defend Fender in this issue is beyond me. The MSRP for an American Standard is 1399.00+. There should be 0 questions about consistency in quality with a 1000+ guitar, period. I didn't have any issues with mine when I bought it recently, but if I had the issues the OP described, I would be returning it in a heartbeat.

There should be 0 quarter given to a company that charges more that double for a product that is pretty damn close to identical to another they make in another country. People in this country really need to start putting these companies over the coals for substandard "Made in USA" work. I expect a certain amount of work to have to go into a MiM Fender, but a US Fender should be flawless outside of a setup when purchased new.

Hell, for that matter, I've seen Indonesian made Tele's that would blow a US Tele out of the water. Perfectly flawless JA-90s.

Return it, and get something else.


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Post subject: Re: New American Standard Tele - a couple of issues
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:38 pm
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Well Said, couldn't agree more.


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Post subject: Re: New American Standard Tele - a couple of issues
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:00 am
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94sglife wrote:
How ANYONE can defend Fender in this issue is beyond me. The MSRP for an American Standard is 1399.00+. There should be 0 questions about consistency in quality with a 1000+ guitar, period. I didn't have any issues with mine when I bought it recently, but if I had the issues the OP described, I would be returning it in a heartbeat.

There should be 0 quarter given to a company that charges more that double for a product that is pretty damn close to identical to another they make in another country. People in this country really need to start putting these companies over the coals for substandard "Made in USA" work. I expect a certain amount of work to have to go into a MiM Fender, but a US Fender should be flawless outside of a setup when purchased new.

Hell, for that matter, I've seen Indonesian made Tele's that would blow a US Tele out of the water. Perfectly flawless JA-90s.

Return it, and get something else.

there was nothing really wrong with his guitar the string ferrules came out when he restrung the guitar so what? just put um back in and restring the guitar they cant fall out if you have strings on.......


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Post subject: Re: New American Standard Tele - a couple of issues
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:21 am
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chrits. wrote:
alun wrote:
chrits. wrote:
guys a 1000 dollar instrument is not a perfect instrument if you want it perfect you have to shell out more than that.... i wouldnt expect a guitar to be perfect unless it is a custom shop guitar



You are obviously far richer than me, when I buy any instrument I expect it to be perfect, nothing less nothing more, We are talking about professional guitars here for professional players, and perfection is what I personally demand, And if fender aren't able to supply perfection on standard models then don't sell them, and tell joe public they would be far better off buying a custom shop model end of. :shock:


actually im rather poor my dad has worked two jobs for most of my life sometimes three and my mom has always worked i have saved up or traded for every guitar ive bought and the most espensive one out of those is a les paul studio 800 bucks and i traded for half the price so i paid about 400 for iti just look at things realistically fender standered models are not proffesional quality instruments but their custom shop guitars are though i think an important thing to note is that gibson standered model is 2 grand


Oh dear :(


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Post subject: Re: New American Standard Tele - a couple of issues
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:47 pm
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FloydTatum wrote:
A lot of people say that. The way I see it, if it's so easy to fix, then why didn't Fender fix it before it left the factory? For over $1,000, I shouldn't have to fix anything.

Substitute a car for a guitar and think about how you'd feel if things started to fall off a brand new car you just bought. And if people said to you "It's no big deal, just screw it back on".

People dispose of cars, too.
Have you ever seen a guitar junkyard? :shock:
Bad analogy.

You are buying something that still relies on human interaction in a very labor intensive environment.
I bought a Benz new and found a razor blade left over from trimming the carpet.
Should I have returned the car because I heard a noise in a brand new car?
Nah - I fixed it.
Same thing here.

My baja has loose ferrules too. It also has misaligned fret dots (12th fret) on the side of the neck.
The jack was loose.
Nothing under the sun is made by humans without imperfections.
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Post subject: Re: New American Standard Tele - a couple of issues
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:48 am
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AngryHatter wrote:
FloydTatum wrote:
A lot of people say that. The way I see it, if it's so easy to fix, then why didn't Fender fix it before it left the factory? For over $1,000, I shouldn't have to fix anything.

Substitute a car for a guitar and think about how you'd feel if things started to fall off a brand new car you just bought. And if people said to you "It's no big deal, just screw it back on".

People dispose of cars, too.
Have you ever seen a guitar junkyard? :shock:
Bad analogy.

You are buying something that still relies on human interaction in a very labor intensive environment.
I bought a Benz new and found a razor blade left over from trimming the carpet.
Should I have returned the car because I heard a noise in a brand new car?
Nah - I fixed it.
Same thing here.

My baja has loose ferrules too. It also has misaligned fret dots (12th fret) on the side of the neck.
The jack was loose.
Nothing under the sun is made by humans without imperfections.
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Well if you are happy with the Faults on your baja good luck to you, I expect more even if it is made by mere humans, if you are going to do a job do it correctly, :shock:


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