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Post subject: Help identifying Telecaster model
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:15 pm
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Hi. Ive owned a telecatser for some time now and assumed its a standard, but now im considering selling it I need to know for sure what I have.

Ive been told it could be a highway 1 or a standard, be nice if Fender just wrote on the guitar wtf it is.

Ive added some pictures, if you need specific angles let me know I will add more. Really appreciate your help guys thanks.

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Post subject: Re: Help identifying Telecaster model
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:53 pm
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Based on the bridge, hardware, and going by the single string tree it's probably an American Series Telecaster. What is the serial number - at least what is the letter and the first number? That will tell you the approximate year.

Also, what does the neck plate say?

Here is the timeline on the Tele and what they were called:

1. American Standard Telecaster - made from late 1986 through approximately mid-2000. Used the flat bridge plate with cast saddles. Used a TBX tone control through sometime in 1996; after that used the "Delta Tone" no-load tone control.

2. American Series Telecaster - made from mid-2000 through the end of 2007. Had several updates from the American Standard, most notabaly a single string tree, rolled fingerboard edges on the neck, updated pickups.

3. American Standard Telecaster - current model; production started January 2008. These have the new style bridge with bent saddles along with other updates.

As I say, based on the bridge and the single string tree I would say it's an American Series Tele. The Highway 1 Teles used the vintage-style bridge.


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Post subject: Re: Help identifying Telecaster model
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:57 pm
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John C wrote:
What is the serial number


N7204437

I know its Feb 03 1997 made at Corona. Just dying to know exactly what type of USA tele it is.

Neck plate simply says Fender.
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Post subject: Re: Help identifying Telecaster model
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:01 pm
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John C wrote:
Used a TBX tone control through sometime in 1996; after that used the "Delta Tone" no-load tone control

This is bugging me, someone said the same thing, does Delta mean the push/pull type tone knob? because mine isnt push/pull and is 1997. I read somewhere that a few tele's after 1996 were TBX.


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Post subject: Re: Help identifying Telecaster model
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:43 am
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fuzzdemon wrote:
John C wrote:
Used a TBX tone control through sometime in 1996; after that used the "Delta Tone" no-load tone control

This is bugging me, someone said the same thing, does Delta mean the push/pull type tone knob? because mine isnt push/pull and is 1997. I read somewhere that a few tele's after 1996 were TBX.


Okay, since it has an N7 serial number it is an American Standard Tele. I guess I was thinking of the Strats with that "changed from 2 string trees to one string tree" comment about changes between the American Series and the American Standards in 2000. :oops:

The "Delta Tone" (or "no load") tone pot is not a push/pull; it has a little detent when you turn it up all the way (on a Strat it would be just as you hit the "10" on the tone knob); when you hit that detent the tone control is taken out of the circuit. As a 1997 it should have this control; over the years as the pot loosens up you might not even feel that detent any more.


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Post subject: Re: Help identifying Telecaster model
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:54 am
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John C wrote:
fuzzdemon wrote:
John C wrote:
Used a TBX tone control through sometime in 1996; after that used the "Delta Tone" no-load tone control

This is bugging me, someone said the same thing, does Delta mean the push/pull type tone knob? because mine isnt push/pull and is 1997. I read somewhere that a few tele's after 1996 were TBX.


Okay, since it has an N7 serial number it is an American Standard Tele. I guess I was thinking of the Strats with that "changed from 2 string trees to one string tree" comment about changes between the American Series and the American Standards in 2000. :oops:

The "Delta Tone" (or "no load") tone pot is not a push/pull; it has a little detent when you turn it up all the way (on a Strat it would be just as you hit the "10" on the tone knob); when you hit that detent the tone control is taken out of the circuit. As a 1997 it should have this control; over the years as the pot loosens up you might not even feel that detent any more.


I see now, an interested buyer said that the Delta is push/pull type knob thats what threw me, maybe hes trying to convince me I have a fake tele to get a bargain lol

Thanks for the help its great to finally nail it. Its a bit of a dog this guitar after being gigged in new york and europe so much but I finds it hard to let it go it plays and sounds as good as my Les Paul Standard in my humble opinion.


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Post subject: Re: Help identifying Telecaster model
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:20 am
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database says......Am Std Tele MN BSB Part number 0108402732 completed 2/6/97 and shipped to the UK 2/17/97.
specs were:
Model Name: American Standard Telecaster®
Model Number: 010-8400-(Color#) and 010-8402-(Color#)
Series: American Standard Series
Body: Alder (Optional Swamp Ash Body Natural Finish Only pn# 010-8400/2-721)
Neck: Maple
Fingerboard: Rosewood (010-8400) or Maple (010-8402), (9.5” Radius/241 mm)
No. of Frets: 22 Medium Jumbo Frets
Scale Length: 25.5” (648 mm)
Width @ Nut: 1.6875” (43 mm)
Hardware: Chrome
Machine Heads: Fender/Schaller Deluxe Cast/Sealed
Bridge: American Standard Tele with 6 Stainless Saddles
Pickguard: 3-Ply White
Pickups: 2 American Standard Tele’s (Neck & Bridge)
Pickup Switching: 3-Position Blade:
Position 1. Bridge Pickup
Position 2. Bridge and Neck Pickups
Position 3. Neck Pickup
Controls: Master Volume, Master Tone (New Delta-ToneTM system including high output bridge pickup and special “no-load” tone control)
Colors: (700)* 3-Color Sunburst, add $50.00,
(701)** White Blonde, add $150.00 for Special Wood Requirements
(705) Olympic White,
(706) Black,
(721)** Natural Ash, add $150.00 for Special Wood Requirements,
(724) Inca Silver,
(774) Aqua Marine Metallic,
(793) Purple Metallic
(Polyurethane Finish)
Strings: Fender Super 250L’s (.009 to .042) Nickel Plated Steel pn#073-0250-003
Unique Features:
Source: U.S.
Accessories: Molded Case
U.S. MSRP: $1,049.99 (With Swamp Ash Body $1,199.99)
NOTICE: Prices and Specifications Subject to Change Without Notice
INTRODUCED: 1/1988
DISCONTINUED: 6/2000
DISCONTINUED COLORS: (732) Brown Sunburst, add $50.00 (1/98)
(728)* Crimson Burst,..Add $50.00, (741) Vintage White (4/97), (772) Sonic Blue (4/97)
(702) Lake Placid Blue, (7/98)
(709) Candy Apple Red, (7/98)
COMMENTS: Replaced by the new "American Telecaster " 6/2000
WRENCH SIZES: Truss Rod Wrench (1/8” Hex) #0023811000
Saddle Height Adjustment Wrench (.050 Hex) #0018531000

Cheers,
rob

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Post subject: Re: Help identifying Telecaster model
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:28 am
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Rob Schwarz-Fender wrote:
database says......Am Std Tele MN BSB Part number 0108402732 completed 2/6/97 and shipped to the UK 2/17/97.
specs were:
Model Name: American Standard Telecaster®
Model Number: 010-8400-(Color#) and 010-8402-(Color#)
Series: American Standard Series
Body: Alder (Optional Swamp Ash Body Natural Finish Only pn# 010-8400/2-721)
Neck: Maple
Fingerboard: Rosewood (010-8400) or Maple (010-8402), (9.5” Radius/241 mm)
No. of Frets: 22 Medium Jumbo Frets
Scale Length: 25.5” (648 mm)
Width @ Nut: 1.6875” (43 mm)
Hardware: Chrome
Machine Heads: Fender/Schaller Deluxe Cast/Sealed
Bridge: American Standard Tele with 6 Stainless Saddles
Pickguard: 3-Ply White
Pickups: 2 American Standard Tele’s (Neck & Bridge)
Pickup Switching: 3-Position Blade:
Position 1. Bridge Pickup
Position 2. Bridge and Neck Pickups
Position 3. Neck Pickup
Controls: Master Volume, Master Tone (New Delta-ToneTM system including high output bridge pickup and special “no-load” tone control)
Colors: (700)* 3-Color Sunburst, add $50.00,
(701)** White Blonde, add $150.00 for Special Wood Requirements
(705) Olympic White,
(706) Black,
(721)** Natural Ash, add $150.00 for Special Wood Requirements,
(724) Inca Silver,
(774) Aqua Marine Metallic,
(793) Purple Metallic
(Polyurethane Finish)
Strings: Fender Super 250L’s (.009 to .042) Nickel Plated Steel pn#073-0250-003
Unique Features:
Source: U.S.
Accessories: Molded Case
U.S. MSRP: $1,049.99 (With Swamp Ash Body $1,199.99)
NOTICE: Prices and Specifications Subject to Change Without Notice
INTRODUCED: 1/1988
DISCONTINUED: 6/2000
DISCONTINUED COLORS: (732) Brown Sunburst, add $50.00 (1/98)
(728)* Crimson Burst,..Add $50.00, (741) Vintage White (4/97), (772) Sonic Blue (4/97)
(702) Lake Placid Blue, (7/98)
(709) Candy Apple Red, (7/98)
COMMENTS: Replaced by the new "American Telecaster " 6/2000
WRENCH SIZES: Truss Rod Wrench (1/8” Hex) #0023811000
Saddle Height Adjustment Wrench (.050 Hex) #0018531000

Cheers,
rob

Holy smeg where did you find all that info? thats awesome thanks mate.
I decided to keep it, I was a bit offended by some of the potential buyers opinions on its condition, what some call damage I call character, basically they are gonna go and spend hundreds of more pounds on just 2 or 3 grams of extra wood.

Thanks for the info mate im gonna go and make a brew and absorb all that detail.


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Post subject: Re: Help identifying Telecaster model
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:36 am
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YAY for keeping!!!! :O)
Enjoy!

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Post subject: Re: Help identifying Telecaster model
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:05 pm
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Rob Schwarz-Fender wrote:
YAY for keeping!!!! :O)
Enjoy!


The ugly side of the guitar is in these pics, ive been quoted £150 for a refret and to have the neck refinished but I like to keep guitars original unless they are unplayable.

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Post subject: Re: Help identifying Telecaster model
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:43 pm
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fuzzdemon wrote:
The ugly side of the guitar is in these pics, ive been quoted £150 for a refret and to have the neck refinished but I like to keep guitars original unless they are unplayable.


If these are locking tuners, you should learn how to use them.

Cheers

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Post subject: Re: Help identifying Telecaster model
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:00 pm
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Amerigo wrote:
fuzzdemon wrote:
The ugly side of the guitar is in these pics, ive been quoted £150 for a refret and to have the neck refinished but I like to keep guitars original unless they are unplayable.


If these are locking tuners, you should learn how to use them.

Cheers

David


No not locking tuners, ive never had a guitar with those but they are simple enough to use.


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