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Post subject: Re: What IS my Telecaster?
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:13 am
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[code][/code]I suppose that it's a case of " Specs: Product Prices, Features, Specifications and Availability Are Subject To Change Without Notice." AKA We will use whatever we have in surplus. Gibson and Fender are guilty of this. The problem is that no one is able to determine if its a mistake or intentional. You could have a 'rare' one-off, or you have a normal production guitar. Fender is more guilty of this than Gibson.

I own an ES-347, and it's an excellent guitar, but the rumors of an excess of Series7 (Dirty Fingers w/covers) pickups created a need for a platform to sell them. Norlin who controlled Gibson at the time decided, with some input from a few Jazz guitarists, tried to reinvent the ES-335. They came up with at least two models. They were loosely based on the BB King model (their most successful ES variant): ES-355 w/ no f holes and 3 pickups, and the ES-347 w/ f holes setup with BB King hardware. They were designed to have more cutting output and less feedback. They used steel nuts on early models, Ebony fingerboards, and various pickups especially the Series7 pickups. Well these pickups have the most output Gibson ever created. These were hated by the jazz players. So they put them on the ES-347, w/gold plated covers. Both guitars were never made in large numbers and were discontinued. And now every ES-335 is a historic reissue( AKA more$$); and the newer smaller bodied ES-339(ES-347 replacement w/ maple neck but PAF pickups), ES-359, and CS-356 (Johnny A) are well received variants.

I don't know any Fender stories like that, but this situation sounds familiar. And with the CBS marketing unit, at that time, anything could happen.

As always this is only an opinion.

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Post subject: Re: What IS my Telecaster?
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 10:55 am
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qblue wrote:
I suppose that it's a case of " Specs: Product Prices, Features, Specifications and Availability Are Subject To Change Without Notice." AKA We will use whatever we have in surplus. Gibson and Fender are guilty of this. The problem is that no one is able to determine if its a mistake or intentional. You could have a 'rare' one-off, or you have a normal production guitar. Fender is more guilty of this than Gibson.

I own an ES-347, and it's an excellent guitar, but the rumors of an excess of Series7 (Dirty Fingers w/covers) pickups created a need for a platform to sell them. Norlin who controlled Gibson at the time decided, with some input from a few Jazz guitarists, tried to reinvent the ES-335. They came up with at least two models. They were loosely based on the BB King model (their most successful ES variant): ES-355 w/ no f holes and 3 pickups, and the ES-347 w/ f holes setup with BB King hardware. They were designed to have more cutting output and less feedback. They used steel nuts on early models, Ebony fingerboards, and various pickups especially the Series7 pickups. Well these pickups have the most output Gibson ever created. These were hated by the jazz players. So they put them on the ES-347, w/gold plated covers. Both guitars were never made in large numbers and were discontinued. And now every ES-335 is a historic reissue( AKA more$$); and the newer smaller bodied ES-339, ES-359, and CS-339 (Johnny A) are well received variants.

I don't know any Fender stories like that, but this situation sounds familiar. And with the CBS marketing unit, at that time, anything could happen.

As always this is only an opinion.


I hear you on the Gibson ES models; I've been trying to find one of them for a while now. It seems like there are two versions of each - i.e. an "Custom Shop Historic '63 Block Neck" for $$$$, a "Custom Shop Block Neck" for about $1K less, some from the "Nashville Custom Shop", some from the "Memphis Custom Shop". Just crazy.

I've tried out an ES-347 back in the day; I was into Rush at the time and thought it did a pretty good job for rock tones but you're right a jazz purest wouldn't like it.

The OPs guitar isn't a vintage 70s Tele Deluxe or the available '72 Telecaster Deluxe reissue; it's a 2010 FSR model. One of my issues with Fender is that they do these FSR runs and never put the specs and photos out anywhere. They are typically some kind of mash-up of features - like the OPs guitar where the body is from the Tele Deluxe reissue but the neck is from a Standard Tele (with a vintage decal that doesn't match either model) and then they throw in odd colors. Fender never puts these on their website because they typically only make one production batch (100 to 250 guitars) of them in each of the available colors.


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Post subject: Re: What IS my Telecaster?
Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 4:38 pm
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If it was me I would keep it if it plays well and you like it.The color looks great to me.Since it is new it may be too soon to find the s/n on the Fender website as it might not be posted yet


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Post subject: Re: What IS my Telecaster?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:23 am
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Hi friends.

Does anybody know about 91' Vintage 52? Did make the Fender this serie with black pickguard with 6 screws?

Thx


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