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vintage or modern
Vintage (with ashtray) 69%  69%  [ 22 ]
Modern (american series) 31%  31%  [ 10 ]
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Post subject: Re: vintage or modern
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:10 pm
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idacaster wrote:
I use the Jerry Donohue method, it may not work for everyone, but let's not go down that road. In the end "DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU". :wink:

mickjagger wrote:
Idacaster, you have peeked my interest to experiment with the Jerry Donahue method of intonation adjustment with my six saddle bridges, to see if I can hear any real world playing difference when using a six saddle bridge.

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/ch ... e_up_your/
The Seymour Duncan article on the Jerry Donahue tuning and intonation method states:

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"...Here it is: Adjust the middle saddle's intonation screw so that the "D" string's 12th fret note reads slightly flat of the 12th fret harmonic on your tuner."

"Then, check out the "G" string's 12th fretted note. This note should be only MARGINALLY sharp of the harmonic. Are you with me?" "Now tune your guitar, with the open "G" string reading somewhere between A440 and A439 (so that the 12th FRETTED note is at A440)."

"Tune the other strings as one would normally. Final adjustments can be made by ear when you compare first position E major and E minor chords. The E major's G# note (third string, 1st fret) should no longer seem sharp in the chord; and the open "G" string should still be perceptively in tune within the E minor chord."

I tried this method of tuning with both the "D" string harmonic open string tuning tuned to A440 with the "D" string 12th fretted note at A439, and with the "D" string harmonic open string tuning tuned to A441 so that the "D" string 12th fretted note was at A440 (the article seems somewhat unclear on this point).

I made direct comparison with my other telecaster, using the same 6 saddle bridge, with each string tuned to the A440 equivalent both open and fretted at the 12th fret. Unfortunately, I could not discern any real word difference in chords or in lead play at the top of the neck using this method of tuning and intonation adjustment with a modern 6 saddle bridge, either amplified or played acoustically.

I really have to really question whether anyone can actually hear what amounts to a maximum 1Hz difference in the "D" and "G" strings tuning/intonation. But, as always, "DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU." :wink:


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Post subject: Re: vintage or modern
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:30 am
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Setting up the intonation on vintage bridges are a pain in the butt.

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Post subject: Re: vintage or modern
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:22 am
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Zuma Dude wrote:
I agree, the intonation adjustment is much nicer on a modern bridge.


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Post subject: Re: vintage or modern
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:42 pm
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There's a lot more to intonation and good tone than the difference of a vintage or modern bridge. Threre is only one thing I can think of at this point "they're all Teles', and it's all good"! :)


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Post subject: Re: vintage or modern
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:32 pm
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Have 3 Tele's with three different bridges modern (Squier Tele), vintage three saddle on a Road Worn 72 Custom and a fixed Strat style on my newest edition a 72 Thinline re-issue. The real sell for me was the U shaped neck and 7 1/4 inch fret radius on the 72 neck. With modeling you can make any guitar sound the way you want, it is now all about the feel for the casual player.


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Post subject: Re: vintage or modern
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:52 am
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I just bought a "Modern" Custom Shop Tele bridge on eBay for a future project.

While I was surfing eBay, I also came across an interesting Custom shop Tele Body, which I googled.
I landed on a tdpri thread regarding a "Fender Custom Shop '59 Telecaster NOS, Top-Loader, Transparent Orange."
If you want to see something pretty interesting, check out this thread at Telecaster.com from the top to the bottom posting which is mine.
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaster-d ... ost3246880

You gotta love the curved lip at the bottom of the plate of these Custom Shop bridges!!

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Post subject: Re: vintage or modern
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:00 am
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MickJagger wrote:
I just bought a "Modern" Custom Shop Tele bridge on eBay for a future project.

While I was surfing eBay, I also came across an interesting Custom shop Tele Body, which I googled.
I landed on a tdpri thread regarding a "Fender Custom Shop '59 Telecaster NOS, Top-Loader, Transparent Orange."
If you want to see something pretty interesting, check out this thread at Telecaster.com from the top to the bottom posting which is mine.
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaster-d ... ost3246880

You gotta love the curved lip at the bottom of the plate of these Custom Shop bridges!!

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Be careful when using Fender items with none Fender aftermarket. I found that they don't always match up. I put a Fender Tele neck on an Allparts body. To my aweful suprise my bridge was too far back and I needed longer saddle screws to get the intonation correct.


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Post subject: Re: vintage or modern
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:36 am
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paris wrote:
Be careful when using Fender items with none Fender aftermarket. I found that they don't always match up. I put a Fender Tele neck on an Allparts body. To my aweful suprise my bridge was too far back and I needed longer saddle screws to get the intonation correct.

Are you saying that the string holes were not drilled in the right location for the bridge?


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Post subject: Re: vintage or modern
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:51 am
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Ceteris Paribus, I've noticed the brass saddles on vintage bridges tend to add a tad bit of '50's brassiness to the overall tone.... I love it!


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Post subject: Re: vintage or modern
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:48 am
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All my teles are vintage fitted

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Post subject: Re: vintage or modern
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:56 pm
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alainlafrance wrote:
All my teles are vintage fitted

Wouldn't like to add just one "modern" to your collection?
It would be a conversation piece!!
Alain, you ought to ask Custom Shop Master Builder, Jason Smith, to make you a "Smith Era" '83 Toploader similar to this one: :wink:

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