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vintage or modern
Vintage (with ashtray) 69%  69%  [ 22 ]
Modern (american series) 31%  31%  [ 10 ]
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:01 pm
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I have both style bridges right now for an american series tele. which should i use. Right now the vintage is installed, but i am curious if i should put the original back on?


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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:14 pm
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I vote for vintage-style bridge. I like the vintage bridges on my Teles better than my Teles with the modern version, though I should note that I do use ashtray covers....just in case that makes a difference in your poll.


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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:27 am
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Do what you want to do to "your" guitar. I've been playing vintage style for so long now that I'm spoiled. I have other guitars, but the vintage Tele bridge just feels like home to me.


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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:01 pm
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Definitely vintage. My ashtray cover gets in the way but I dont want it to get separated from its guitar so I deal with it.


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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:49 pm
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I've been playing a modern style bridge since '83, so I too am spoiled.
And I also have other guitars, but the '83-'84 Modern Toploader Tele bridge feels like home to me.
I just built a cherry burst ash Telecaster with this '83-'84 Fender toploader bridge, which has the Schaller Elite '83-'84 saddles.

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:40 pm
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Definitively vintage :!:

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:43 pm
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idacaster wrote:
Do what you want to do to "your" guitar. I've been playing vintage style for so long now that I'm spoiled. I have other guitars, but the vintage Tele bridge just feels like home to me.


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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:15 pm
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I liked "New Coke" too!!
But the reactionaries prevailed!! :lol:

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:47 pm
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I like vintage w/ a 21 fret neck, modern w/ a 22 fret neck.

I know the modern bridges are easier to intonate.

Saying that, most of my Teles have vintage bridges. I'm now in the midst of converting one of my MIM Standard Teles to a vintage bridge. Very easy. Screw holes line right up.

I keep the ashtray on most of the time as well. (I take it off to palm mute) I just like the look, and I think I've developed a lazy habit of resting my palm on the ashtray when I play.

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Post subject: Re: vintage or modern
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:00 am
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I agree, the intonation adjustment is much nicer on a modern bridge.


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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:31 pm
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Nice guitar Mick! I'm just used to the old vintage model, of course I'm old and vintage too. As far as intonation goes there are many threads on that subject here. I use the Jerry Donohue method, it may not work for everyone, but let's not go down that road. In the end "DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU". :wink:


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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:08 pm
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idacaster wrote:
Nice guitar Mick! I'm just used to the old vintage model, of course I'm old and vintage too. As far as intonation goes there are many threads on that subject here. I use the Jerry Donohue method, it may not work for everyone, but let's not go down that road. In the end "DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU". :wink:

Thanks for the kind remarks, idacaster.
I'm pretty old and vintage at this point myself.
But it seems that it's all about what you grew up with.

That's why Clapton still uses a traditional Strat bridge
You can't convince me that the traditional Strat bridge is a better bridge than the modern Am. Dx. Strat, two point bridge.
I happened to grow up with an '83 Tele with a modern bridge.
I've always considered vintage Tele bridges to be pretty "primitive."

Of course not everyone agrees with that, and admittedly they do have historical significance.
They're sorta like a flat head Ford. There's a certain charm there... I understand that.
If there's any gear heads out there, I'm sure that you might catch my drift.
Of course we all know that overhead valves revolutionized the internal combustion engine.
There was a lot of kicking and screaming there, too...
And there's still a lot of Flat Head Ford Fans today, that are still alive and well!!

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Some of the arguments for vintage bridges are that the original Broadcaster, three brass saddle design, is still the best design today, because they have larger saddles with more mass, and that with two strings per saddle, you have twice the string pressure against the body, producing greater output, sustain and tone. See the Seymour Duncan article on Jerry Donahue:
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/ch ... e_up_your/

Back in the day, when I bought my '83 Tele, those Teles were denigrated for having a toploader bridge. It was argued that "string through the body" design created more tone and sustain. Some folks today argue that toploaders have more sustain because there is "less" string pressure on the bridge.

My belief is that none of this nonsense is much more than a figment of the imagination, and that other factors are much more important for tone and sustain than the bridge design. If you believe the idea that the vintage bridge design, with the pressure of two strings on one saddle, produces greater tone and sustain, or that strings through the body do the same, I have a "bridge" in Brooklyn to sell you.


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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:51 pm
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idacaster wrote:
I use the Jerry Donohue method, it may not work for everyone, but let's not go down that road. In the end "DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU". :wink:

Idacaster, you have peeked my interest to experiment with the Jerry Donahue method of intonation adjustment with my six saddle bridges, to see if I can hear any real world playing difference when using a six saddle bridge.

See the Seymour Duncan article on Jerry Donahue: http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/ch ... e_up_your/


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Post subject: Re: vintage or modern
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:45 pm
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Not to get away from the OP, but like I stated it does work for me. I always wondered how some of the players like James Burton, Don Rich, Jerry Donohue and other guys with modern gauges of strings stayed reasonably in tune. I'm not sure if this is close to their method or not, but it's as close to "perfect" as I can get. I don't see why it wouldn't work for a six piece bridge also, go for it Mick and good luck.


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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:12 pm
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I've decided to keep it with the vintage bridge for now. I guess I really like it that way.


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