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Post subject: Re: A end to intonation woes while maintaining a good sound.
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:26 pm
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Post subject: Re: A end to intonation woes while maintaining a good sound.
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:50 pm
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nikininja wrote:
Kong, I'm not a tone hound at all. Infact I very much take a 'that will do approach'. I simply won't worry about every nuance of my guitars sound, as long as what comes from the amp is clear and bold.
You're probably right about them saddles though. Perhaps I am reading too much into them. I know Ceri is dying to try some.
I'm sold on 6 saddle bridges, but they have to be brass saddles I don't understand why Fender never did it. Perhaps it was a G&L design that they would have had to pay for, back in the day. Just got swept to one side after Fender bought G&L.


Didn't mean to assume there, Nik. I meant the "tone-freak" thing in a good way though :lol:. Ceri is the one who turned me on to them when I was doing my Floodcaster re-build. I remember him saying he was planning to try 'em out.

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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:27 am
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airbornestrat wrote:
Nik,
Tomorrow I will scan and send you the instructions Jerry Donahue gives in the Fender Telecaster Handbook on how to intonate a 3 saddle bridge. I swear it works and you will never look back..:)
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Pretty sure I tried it mate, he had instructions for it on his Myspace Page for a good while. But please send away, I may have missed something.

What this really comes down to is that I've seen something and now won't be swayed from it, till I've tried it.
One track mind :?

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Post subject: Re: A end to intonation woes while maintaining a good sound.
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:06 pm
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I've used Jerry Donohue's method for some time now and it works for me. It's an interesting theory and does make sense the way he presents it. I know he uses light strings, 9's, and maybe it works better with 9's or 10's. I did also notice that the new Fret King(a Trev Wilkinson company) Jerry Donohue model appears to have a compensated brass bridge. Correct me if I'm wrong as I couldn't find conformation on that, but it sure looks like one. There's alot of great players out there that use six piece bridges that have wonderful tone. I'm sure no one would argue with Brent Mason's sound. Jerry Donohue, with a three piece bridge, also has a good sound. There are many factors to a "Good Sound", the number of bridge pieces is only one of many variables. I will agree that the material the pieces are made of can sound different, but not all to consider. The guitar community will never end the quest for the ultimate tone, intonation or playability. And that is a very unique quality we can lay claim to. In the end we all have to find what works for us individually. Excuse me for I must go, I have a few more windmills to conquer.


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Post subject: Re: A end to intonation woes while maintaining a good sound.
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:59 pm
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Thanks for sharing this, Niki.

I have a couple of questions.

- The link you provided seems to refer to a US based shop (prices in US$). Is that where you bought the bridge from? Or are these also available to buy here in the UK?

- Did you have to make any alterations to the guitar to fit the G&L bridge and plate or did it just slot in place of the Fender one? In other words were there any chiselling, sanding, modifications required?

- Would the ash tray metal cover fit on the G&L bridge?

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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:20 pm
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I haven't bought it yet. I got looking for a UK shop, and got side tracked with a audition. (you wouldn't believe how nervous I am)

I reckon WD will get one in. I can't see the need for cutting anything. Maybe have to break a new screwhole into the body. Even if you put the old bridge back on, it will be hidden.

When I get it, I'll post more on it.

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Post subject: Re: A end to intonation woes while maintaining a good sound.
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:12 pm
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nikininja wrote:
Down the local shop earlier, that just started selling G&L. Well the tele's are divine.
Why can't Fender make this

http://www.glguitars.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=225

Now I gotta butcher my tele just to intonate it.


just curious why is it you have to butcher your tele ? you mean screwing in new holes ? If that is the case, wouldn't you be able to just replace saddles and use your old plate ?

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Post subject: Re: A end to intonation woes while maintaining a good sound.
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:05 am
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Butcher???
How rude, I know what I'm doing. I aint no pickguard swap/call it a mod character.

How would it butcher my guitar to replace the bridge, when compensated saddles simply are not good enough for me? I've spent 20 odd years trying to attain as near perfect pitch as possible. I'm really not far off at all. Compensated saddles are a minor improvment on normal brass saddles, but nowhere near right.
Yet you accuse me of butchery whilst being unable to hear the failing of the product, before I've undertaken the change?
Whats that about?
How do you know that it would be butchery? How do you know that new screw holes would be required?
As far as I can see, their in the same position, yes I did measure the local G&L. Although you never really know till you've the thing in your hands.

What is this? Some kind of prattfest retaliation for saying that the 3 saddle bridge isn't perfect?

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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:18 pm
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CajunBlues wrote:
If that is the case, wouldn't you be able to just replace saddles and use your old plate ?


You can't use the same plate because it only has 3 holes for the vintage saddle adjuster screws, you need 6 holes for the individual saddles.

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Butcher???
How rude, I know what I'm doing. I aint no pickguard swap/call it a mod character.

How would it butcher my guitar to replace the bridge, when compensated saddles simply are not good enough for me? I've spent 20 odd years trying to attain as near perfect pitch as possible. I'm really not far off at all. Compensated saddles are a minor improvment on normal brass saddles, but nowhere near right.
Yet you accuse me of butchery whilst being unable to hear the failing of the product, before I've undertaken the change?
Whats that about?
How do you know that it would be butchery? How do you know that new screw holes would be required?
As far as I can see, their in the same position, yes I did measure the local G&L. Although you never really know till you've the thing in your hands.

What is this? Some kind of prattfest retaliation for saying that the 3 saddle bridge isn't perfect?


Nick, he was just quoting you! You said you had to butcher your tele in the opening post on this thread! :lol:

Then he asked what you meant by butchering, as if to ask if you needed to drill different holes. If you're kidding, that was really funny.

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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:39 am
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Check this out
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/ch ... e_up_your/

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Post subject: Re: A end to intonation woes while maintaining a good sound.
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:37 am
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Kong wrote:
Nick, he was just quoting you! You said you had to butcher your tele in the opening post on this thread! :lol:

Then he asked what you meant by butchering, as if to ask if you needed to drill different holes. If you're kidding, that was really funny.


Agreed... Maybe a bit too much Jesus Juice flowing out there in guitar land...

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Post subject: Re: A end to intonation woes while maintaining a good sound.
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:47 am
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Check out the 2nd page ot the forum thread "Vintage 3 Saddle Hell". [urlhttp://www.fender.com/community/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=49033&start=15[/url]
I think that will get you there. Fender has a new 6 saddle brass bridge coming out this year on a custom model. That should mean that someday we will be able to get our hands on a similar bridge. I hope.


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