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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:14 pm
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i was thinking about buying an american standard telecaster, the crimson red/rosewood, and for giggles, put some tv jones pickups with a hardtail strat bridge and maybe see if some place like warmoth would make a custom pguard.

what are some issues i would run into? i have never modded a guitar before. has anyone had experience similar to this project?

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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:00 pm
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chambers23 wrote:
i was thinking about buying an american standard telecaster, the crimson red/rosewood, and for giggles, put some tv jones pickups with a hardtail strat bridge and maybe see if some place like warmoth would make a custom pguard.

what are some issues i would run into? i have never modded a guitar before. has anyone had experience similar to this project?


What about the bridge pickup routing? I know that American Standard bodies are routed for a neck humbucker but I'm not sure about the bridge routing. It could be routed for an angled single coil, which means you would have to both route for the TV Jones and have an extended pickguard that would cover the existing routing - so it would look something like a G&L ASAT Special with the TV Jones pickups.


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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:43 pm
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@Nevin:

i seen a photo of a tele w gretsch looking pickups, i never thought it was real! thats awesome news for me lol thanks nevin!

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i searched and found them at musiciansfriend.com! they are expensive, but they look awesome and i bet they would sound great thru my ac30

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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:02 am
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build your own/ you can build one better than the custom shop ones for half the price and with all your own specs.

Get all your own hardware and parts together with a nice custom neck and Mark Jenny has the bodies.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Custom-Order-Aged-F ... 1549wt_702

You should be able to build one that will put the custom shop ones to shame for less than $1500.

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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:11 pm
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Hare-brained Tele scheme alive and well, here, too. Winter's coming to metro Chicago....

Got a bit of some old barn wood in the shed. Thought is to make a Tele body...

...buy a Warmouth neck (big Fender headstock, like a Jaguar)

... put a couple of weird-afs good (non-traditional, exact config not yet determined; Gatton style rails top choice at current) pups

...staggered Fender tuners

... Bigsby

...tooled leather pickguard

...normal Tele electronics

...dice or. 44 mag shells for knobs

...brass nut

...beer bottle opener screwed on the face somewhere.

And give her a good, classy "slightly tarnished" Southern belle name.


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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:15 pm
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Nevin1985 wrote:
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build your own/ you can build one better than the custom shop ones for half the price


And how many Custom Shop La Cabronita guitars have you played? :roll:

Only 2 and both were excellent guitars. But Fender name and Custom Shop label aside, one can be built for much less that is just as good if not better than a Fender Custom Shop Cabronita. No offense meant at all, but it would be fairly easy to do for $1500 and have all top of the line parts in the process. I know the ones made by the Custom Shop have a reputation based on the name brand and all, but a home made one CAN be made that is jusr as good if not better from top to bottom without spending $3000+ on one simply because it has "Fender" on it.

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Nevin1985 wrote:
I won't argue that a home build can be good, but if the home builds start outperforming the Custom Shop something is wrong.

One way or another...

It really isn't that hard to do if done right. The custom shop certainly doesn't have the best relics, you can get wood of equal quality, same or better electronics, better pups and even better hardware than the CS uses. There are plenty of home builds that out perform Custom Shop guitars, without paying the custom shop workers salaries in the process or pay extra for the name brand. Many people just see the Fender label on it and assume there is nothing better out there. All a matter of opinion though. Take care.

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BlackCatBone wrote:
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I won't argue that a home build can be good, but if the home builds start outperforming the Custom Shop something is wrong.

One way or another...

It really isn't that hard to do if done right. The custom shop certainly doesn't have the best relics, you can get wood of equal quality, same or better electronics, better pups and even better hardware than the CS uses. There are plenty of home builds that out perform Custom Shop guitars, without paying the custom shop workers salaries in the process or pay extra for the name brand. Many people just see the Fender label on it and assume there is nothing better out there. All a matter of opinion though. Take care.


I highly doubt most home builds would really be better than a Custom Shop guitar.


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belly65 wrote:

I highly doubt most home builds would really be better than a Custom Shop guitar.


As do I, hence why I NEVER said MOST would be better and why I said it IS possible if you do it right.

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Nevin1985 wrote:
I find that people are becoming more and more delusional by the day. The aftermarket community is just insane. There are people out there that believe nothing good could ever come stock anymore.

I have faith in stock products.

Some people blindly follow aftermarket products thinking they are superior in every way simply because they are not stock.


+1 Well said.


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Nevin1985 wrote:
I find that people are becoming more and more delusional by the day. The aftermarket community is just insane. There are people out there that believe nothing good could ever come stock anymore.

I have faith in stock products.


Sure. But what do you do when you want a hardtail Strat finished in nitro in daphne blue, with a beautiful, figured maple neck and pickups not offered by Fender?

I could pay the Fender custom shop to make it, or I could buy the parts and assemble it myself. The only thing it'll be missing will be "Fender" on the headstock.


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