It is currently Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:31 am

All times are UTC - 7 hours



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 
Author Message
Post subject: Investment
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:30 am
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:03 pm
Posts: 76
I'm a real huge fan of Vintage Guitar Magazine's price guide. According to their value chart, vintage Fender and Gibson guitars lost in value. I was wondering about this: Is it a good time to buy vintage Fender?

Here are some guitars that some guys are selling near my home:

- Telecaster Deluxe 1973, Blond, all original with case candy and OHSC, 3000$
- Telecaster Thinline 1974, Natural, all original with case candy and OHSC, 2900$
- Telecaster Standard 1969, Natural, maple neck, all original, w/o OHSC, 3800$

A total investment of 9700$ but I'm not crazy... I won't buy all three!! Well, maybe I'm crazy...

I was wondering about the color of the 1969 because VG magazine doesn't list the ''natural'' color in both common and rare color. I know that if it's the original color, the guitar would worth about 8200 to 9000$ (maple neck increase the value of about 10 to 15%)

If there's an expert in here, please help me make my choice!!!


Top
Profile
Fender Play Winter Sale 2020
Post subject:
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:38 pm
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:03 pm
Posts: 76
What about the 1969? Anyone knows if the color could be original? ''Natural'' is not listed in Fender chart for 1969.


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:51 pm
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician

Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:29 pm
Posts: 614
Location: SW Ohio
A couple of comments -

I would image the "loss" in value is relative to the current economy. I doubt that it because the market has peaked. You can go on craigslist and find vintage gear being sold basically because people are in need of money.

If you can't find "natural" in the Fender listing, then trust the listing. Or go to your local vintage shop and ask..... typically the owners are happy to discuss these types of things.

Do you know enough to know if these guitars are truly vintage or reproductions. This is just a word of caution.

Buying vintage guitars and amps as an investment is risky at best. Investing in collectable is not advisable. Would you like to buy some beanie babies or Pokemon cards? :wink:

Don't buy a collectable as an investment. Open up an IRA or a CD. Buy the guitar because you like it and you want to play it. If it goes up in value, then so much the better. And if you do buy it as an investment, be prepared to keep it for a long time to realize a decent return.


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:52 am
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:16 am
Posts: 54
Location: UK
I think that "phansford" is pretty much on the nail.

I have a collection of 43 original issue CAR Fender guitars (all 63-72 with 1 56 factory refin) of all sorts, acquired over the years, but I don't see them as an investment.

Unless you are rich, & willing to risk buying genuine vintage guitars as an investment (just like any other investment - but not a good reason for owning old guitars imho) then simply own them for what they are, a piece of history that you are "looking after" on a temporary basis for future generations to be able to own, play, & appreciate.

Love them now, look after them now, play them now whenever you can, & please don't shut them away in a case in storage!

I'm speaking as a guy who gigs a 68 P Bass week in, week out as well, but having said all of the above, it does seem to me that genuine original, good quality vintage guitars, are unlikely to get much cheaper. Not only are there a lot of private individuals who "need the money", but there are also a lot of honest dealers who desperately need the cashflow (no matter what anybody says .... there are some honest dealers out there .... but beware .... there are some crooks around as well!!!)


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:06 pm
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:21 am
Posts: 331
Location: Normal, Illinois
Sorry, this is a little off topic, but Maulden, do you have a group shot of your CAR guitars? I'd love to see it.


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:23 pm
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:16 am
Posts: 54
Location: UK
Hi John.

I'm being chased both here & on other Fender related forums for updated pics. I will get something done, but be aware ...... I'm no photographer!


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:32 pm
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:21 am
Posts: 331
Location: Normal, Illinois
Awesome! Looking forward to it!


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:42 pm
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:03 pm
Posts: 76
Thanks guys. You made me think about it and I decided to buy the Thinline. Not as an investment but as a real good guitar and a beauty to look at!

This will be my main guitar and no, it won't sleep in its case!!! This chunk of wood will rock for an other 40 years (I'm 22 so...)


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:29 am
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:16 am
Posts: 54
Location: UK
Good decision & for the right reasons it seems.

I have CAR Thinlines from 68 & 71 & they are both great players ...... & a bit different from the more "standard" range of Teles.

The humbucker version like yours is a very underrated & relatively unloved guitar for some reason, but reissues are popular (well in the UK anyway) so perhaps that will change over time?


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:07 am
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician

Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:29 pm
Posts: 614
Location: SW Ohio
Excellent choice.

I bought a 74(?) Thinline in 1983 - I had just started grad school. I paid $400 for it. I probably overpaid at the time. I used money from my student loan. :lol: I've never taken the neck off to date it.... just serial numbers.... and that's not necessarily very accurate.

Its black with a maple neck and a layered white pick guard. Back then the Thinlines weren't that popular. Mine is all original and fun to play. I play for my own pleasure and the Tele has never been gigged since I owned it. It's looks new, except for a couple of dings and the maple has aged.

I had it appraised about a year ago and they actually weighted the guitar to verify that it was vintage. I have noticed that reproductions are very light.

The "investment" side of it has been just dumb luck. Keep it for 27 years and you could see a "return" on that "investment"....... but - speaking from experience - you won't sell it. :lol: BTW - The value of the guitar is now equal to the entire student loan amount :lol:

Image


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:03 pm
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:03 pm
Posts: 76
Quote:
The "investment" side of it has been just dumb luck. Keep it for 27 years and you could see a "return" on that "investment"....... but - speaking from experience - you won't sell it. BTW - The value of the guitar is now equal to the entire student loan amount


That's why my parents are pissed off!


Top
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 7 hours

Fender Play Winter Sale 2020

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: