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Post subject: Noisy Noisless pickups
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:34 pm
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Hey,

I am new here so bear with me. I have a Fender Deluxe Ash tele with the Noisless pickups. When I first bought this guitar these things were dead quiet even with the heaviest of gain. Not too long after purchasing it it developed a ground issue in the tone pot. If i turned the tone knob at all the guitar became extremely noisy and scratchy. After a few turns it would fix itself. During this time if i touched the control plate it would lessen the hum. Now there is a constant faint hum but it is horrible when even a slight amount of gain is used. I have not touched the electronics. I took it to the store and of course it never would make the noise there. It doesn't matter what cable or amp I use from my twin, deluxe to my Mesa Mark 1. Even if I bypass my effects all together straight in the amp clean. Any siggestions? It is out of warranty now ( naturally haha) Any advice would be great.

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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:39 pm
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The fact that turning the pot a few times will clean it up suggests the possiblility you may have a bad pot or possibly just a dirty one. You might consider spraying a little contact cleaner on the pot in question and rotate it many times while it dries.

That is just one possiblilty.

I am sure others here will have some other ideas for you as well.

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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:13 am
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Any dimmer lights near where you play?
They wreck havoc with my noiseless pups.
If the lights are fully on, they're fine. Once they are varied, even just a little they start developing hum.

Try moving around the room and see if it makes a difference while plugged in.
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:07 am
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I have thought about cleaning the pot but it hasn't had the scratchy noise problem late$y or the grounding issue. Just noisy pups now! They are just s noisy as any standard single coils now. I have tried moving around and the ground switch on my amps plugging amps into dif outlets etc. I stay so busy I have just recently started to dive into figuring this out. Those pups are one thing I love about that guitar especially when recording but now I am baffled....I don't wanna shell out money for new pups and electronics but......


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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:20 am
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Deluxe Ash with noiseless pups. Does it have the S1 switching system? If so how does that switch impact the problem?

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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:27 am
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Its just changes the "tone" of the buzz if that makes sense. But so does switching through the pup positions. Its neither better nor is it any worse.


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Its just changes the "tone" of the buzz if that makes sense. But so does switching through the pup positions. Its neither better nor is it any worse.


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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:26 pm
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Does the tone control change the tone?
If not, maybe you have a cap not grounding in the circuit.

Or a bad solder joint...

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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:02 pm
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Yes. The tone control affects the tone of the buzz. Any idea on how I could detect where a bad ground or solder connection is? I have a multimeter and solder gun. I know how to do basic solder connections and the such.


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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:09 pm
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Yes. The tone control affects the tone of the buzz. Any idea on how I could detect where a bad ground or solder connection is? I have a multimeter and solder gun. I know how to do basic solder connections and the such.


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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:07 pm
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Well, here's how I would do it...

If you are familiar with soldering then you know a good solder joint looks nice and shiny so...Visually, you may find a dullish looking solder joint.

And/Or..

You could re-solder the connections you have to be sure they are good.

And/Or...

While you have the pick-guard off you may find a broken ground wire from the pick guard itself ( if so equipped ) or possibly from a pup. You could also try grounding various metal things (that you know should be grounded) one at a time with a piece of wire until you find the culprit too (no soldering). Yes the guitar is plugged in while doing this but NOT PLUGGED IN WHILE SOLDERING!!!

And/Or... un solder the pups one at a time to see if there's a bad pup.

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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:48 pm
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Okay. I took the pickguard off and removed the control plate. There are a few contacts that when I touch them things become more noisy. Is this normal? All the solder connections looked great no dull solder or anything. There isn't a ground on the pickguard but there are 2 other grounds and they appeared fine. I am trying to avoid having to tackle a complete rewire and resoldering of everything.


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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:49 am
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There are so many things that can cause a bad ground hum like that unfortunately. But did you try checking your input jack's ground? That's usually the most common culprit.

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