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Post subject: What is the Nocaster
Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:42 pm
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I've seen many references to the Nocaster and Tele, can someone please explain what's the difference. I've tried to Google it, but never get a real answer.

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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:47 pm
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When Fender started they called the Tele a Broadcaster. This conflicted with Gretsch's drum kit The BroadKaster so they had to change it.

Before they came up with the name Telecaster the guitars that were produced in between simply said Fender on the headstock. These are known as Nocasters .

Its ironic now as Fender own Gretsch.

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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:52 pm
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Ahh, ok. Very simply put, thank you.


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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:06 pm
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I think that back then (early 1951) the guitars that we call today "Nocasters" (Broadcasters with no name) were still called Broadcasters (thought this name was obviously already suspended, as mentioned), and the nickname "Nocaster" came years later? If so, when? Anyone knows more detail about this?


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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:05 pm
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Iago wrote:
I think that back then (early 1951) the guitars that we call today "Nocasters" (Broadcasters with no name) were still called Broadcasters (thought this name was obviously already suspended, as mentioned), and the nickname "Nocaster" came years later? If so, when? Anyone knows more detail about this?


This video explains a little about the Broadcaster and Nocaster. The guy in the video has an original 1950 Broadcaster and man oh man do i wish it was mine! im guessing the Nocaster is even more valueable but im not sure??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_IwboW1 ... re=related

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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:45 am
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Celtic Cyclonus wrote:
When Fender started they called the Tele a Broadcaster. This conflicted with Gretsch's drum kit The BroadKaster so they had to change it.

Before they came up with the name Telecaster the guitars that were produced in between simply said Fender on the headstock. These are known as Nocasters .

Its ironic now as Fender own Gretsch.

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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:11 pm
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Celtic Cyclonus is absolutely correct. In February 1951, the Gretsch Company did complain that the "Broadcaster" name infringed on the "Broadkaster" trademark used on their drums and banjos. But let's back up just a little bit, if we may.

In 1949, when Leo began to develop an "electric Spanish" guitar, it was with the idea of being built as inexpensively and as easy to manufacture and repair. It had the basic single-cutaway body and a bolt on, detachable neck, as well as two very important innovations: the pickup had individual pole pieces for each string, and an adjustable bridge for better intonation. By the end of 1949, two prototypes of this "electric Spanish" had been made. It was the second prototype that had its now famous headstock, and all six tuners on one side.

In the spring of 1950, Leo introduced his company's new guitar, and showed it at the NAMM (National Association of Music Merchants) show in Chicago, with the name Esquire. Sadly, these early Esquire guitars shown to the dealer's had warped necks. It was Dan Randall who suggested installing a metal truss-rod to fix this defect. At the same time, Leo was also considering a more fundamental change to the guitar as well: adding a second pickup in the neck position. This caused some concern with Leo's sales force, because they had been promoting a single pickup guitar. The problem was solved by calling the two pickup guitar the Broadcaster (although a few of the two pickup Esquires were sold) and delay the introduction of the single pickup Esquire until the following year. Gretsch now enters with their claim, and Leo's response was to remove the word "Broadcaster" from the headsocks, and soon afterwords, another name was found for the two pickup "electric Spanish" guitar: The Telecaster.

The guitars that were manufactured prior to the Telecaster name, and with only Fender on the headstocks, are known as the "Nocasters."


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